The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. Mac-7

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    I’m sorry you fail to understand

    I guess I’m not explaining it to you clearly enough

    The full employment you are resting so proudly on is an illusion since so many of the jobs are low skill and paying
     
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    You mean save the jobs of the corporate office by closing factories in America and firing American workers while moving production to china to employ chinese workers instead
     
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    Yes. And these companies made that decision. It's called capitalism. Not a big fan of it now? I thought capitalism was the right's God.
     
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    Is china a capitalist economy?

    I think its terribly limited at best

    What the foreign companies choose to do is become serfs of the communist party
     
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    I thought we were talking about American companies freely deciding to outsource production. Did I miss something? Free market is just working its magic!
     
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    what the foreign companies choose to do is obvious to access china 700million middle class, and decided the pros outweight the cons. can't be more capitalist then that.
     
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    It appears to be about the chinese market as much as the US

    But either way by relocating their factories to china they deliver a double whammy against their previous home country

    Because they strengthen the economy of china while weakening the US
     
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    Only for as long as the CCP allows them to

    After all the western technology has been transfered to china the western company is not needed anymore
     
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    Well, it is good for the American company that makes more profit because of it. Don't you think that company has a right to make more profit?
     
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    Good luck with that

    American companies in china are minority partners and have to train the chinese in every aspect of their business

    Eventually china will not need them anymore
     
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    O.K. What's your suggestion to fix this?
     
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    Raise tariffs on chinese imports
     
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    You do realize this will result in consumers paying more, correct?
     
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    Yes
     
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    nope those company keep the core tech, only give china some tech in order to access the market. the reason country like india/china do the exact same thing is because if they just allow western company to have full access, their own industry would never get off the ground, and all its industry will be controlled by western company.
     
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    Go peddle that tail tale somewhere else

    What the gukkible western companies dont give willingly the chinese steal
     
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    lol guess you dont have anything to counter my post anymore.
     
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    I already told you how it is for foreign companies in china

    If you dont get it thats too bad
     
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    China's problem is that it's a copy/paste society. Nearly all of the tech they produce is due to Western countries moving factories there to capitalize on cheap labor. I'm old enough to remember that Chinese-made stuff was pure crap before Westerners came in and showed them how to do it.

    But yes, diverse countries turn in on themselves in bickering over power and spoils, be it the US, India, or Roman Empire. China's relative homogeneity, like with Japan's, is a big plus and pays out in social stability and unity.
     
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    Dont nderestimate the chonese

    They copy because its cheaper and faster than starting from scratch

    In fact they are targeting 2024 for parity with the west in high tch manufacturing

    That may be ambitious but they aint messin around
     
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    They're tinkerers with existing tech, not fresh innovators.
     
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    China has two main languages and more than a dozen major dialects. In addition cultures are markedly different in various parts of the country and the gap between rich and poor is huge. There is almost continuous social unrest in the country especially outside the well controlled major cities. Riots that include property damage are a daily occurance in many parts of China.

    But don't let the fact this is one more subject you know nothing about stop you from banging on.
     
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    A Chinese child could type a more grammatically correct English sentence than you. Their education system is one reason they are progressing rapidly.
     

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