GERMANY JOINS CHORUS CASTING DOUBT ON TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CLAIM THAT IRAN WAS BEHIND ATTACK ON OIL

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  1. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you would just take irans words? I wouldn't.
    Iran was a signatory to the NPT and shouldn't even be permitted to build one in the first place! They went back on their NPT treaty, a real treaty not a deal, and you still take their word that they're not building a nuke? How gullible can you get. Eh, at least your alias fit your mindset.
     
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    Iran has the right to use nuclear power
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Use nuclear power in accordance to the NPT yes. Building a nuclear arsenal no!
    They were already garanteed access to nuclear power station monitoreds by the EU, US and Russia but that wasn't enough. They want missiles.
     
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    They dont build a nuclear arsenal.

    Whats the problem?

    Germany signed the NPT as well. We have 14.000 tons high enriched uranium, 2500 tons plutonium. If we wanted we could build thousands of nukes in a matter of weeks. But nobody freaks out. But Iran is evil when it has few kg low enriched uranium,
     
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    Since there is absolutly no evidence they were building a bomb I would say they complied with the NPT. And the inspectors have verified to everyones satisfaction that they were living up to the agreement. Was the US who violated the agreement with no evidence at all that Iran violated it.

    And when anyone can actually post real evidence thst Iran was pursuing a bomb prior to the agreement you will win. Otherwise you lose and America broke it's agreement. So let's see you try. And the Israeli nonsense was thirteen years before the treaty and onLy prove conclusively that Iran had abandoned any effort to build a bomb.

    Now if you have facts post them. Otherwise I don't care about the idiocy spouted on Conservative television or talk radio.
     
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    They're enriching passed what is needed for civilian use. It's for weapons at this point.

    Yeah you could, and then France, russia and the UK would invade you before you even start because only a fool would trust a german with a nuke. Realise that your dream of ever becoming a military power is pretty much nil as not one of your neighbor have any trust in you. Presently you wouldn't even be able to defeat Poland without Nato help, much less france or the UK.
     
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    Every moronic country including the US has missles for self defense. Missles to deliver nukes is an entirely separate issue.
     
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    They enriched passed the point needed for civilian use. This mean nukes.
     
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    Do you have any idea what you are talking about. What enrichment level do you think is necessary for nuclear weapons and what level enrichment are the Iranians doing?
     
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    Nope.

    Non nuclear balistic missile are frown upon since the recipient can't know if they're nukes or not which mean that a conventional balistic missile launch can, one day, start a nuclear response if the target believe the other side is/was working on a nuke. You don't play those game in these days and age.
     
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    Nonsense. See below.
     
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    Never mind. Ignorance is bliss and tis folly to be wise. Enjoy your bliss.
     
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    You do realize that we could build a nuke within a day, right?

    We have 2500 tons plutonium, all aspects of nuclear power running.

    Do you think we cant take 8kg Pu put TNT around it and a cobalt shell that mirrors the neutrons back into the core. Do you believe a nuke is something a technologucal superpower like germany cant do?
     
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    Iran is going for HEU. Trace amount have been detected by the IAEA.



    And before you go off, I work in the electricity generation business including, up until a few year ago, nuclear power station (CANDU reactor at Gentilly, Quebec).
     
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    Who cares. That gives you no credibility. After all Homer Simpson worked in one also. And I missed your link showing evidence that any uranium was enriched to bomb levels.
     
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    Errr, no.
    You should read up on it. You shouldn't believe all that you read on the internet.

    And I never said you couldn't do it, I said none of your neighbor will let you do it. And two of them have already a sizeable inventory of working and proven nukes. You'd be glowing green in a matter of hours before you put your first one online. All your neighbor hate you and haven't forgotten. They're just to polite to tell you so as long as you behave.
     
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    I have better credibility than a guy named courtjester trolling on an internet forum lol.
     
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    We run evry form of nuclear power, actually invented that ****. We even have advanced fusion test reactors.

    Nothing could stop us to build a nuke, since we just need to put the components together. We even have aircraft and carrier tech running in case that we need it.

    And our neighbors are friends
     
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    Lol you didn't invent any of those thing.
    And as I said no one trust or love you. They leave you be as long as you behave, nothing more.
     
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    It was a win for obama because he kicked the iranian can down the road till after he left office

    And a $150 billion windfall for iran

    But the world remains under a nuclear threat from iran
     
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    We did invent it. Actually nuclear power was invented by Otto Hahn
     
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    Enrico Fermi, an italian, was the first to split the atom and is credited as the father of nuclear power.
     
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    Wrong

    Otto Hahn even got the nobel price for discovering nuclear fission

    Otto Hahn (8 March 1879 – 28 July 1968)[1] was a German chemist and pioneer in the fields of radioactivity and radiochemistry. In 1938, Otto Hahn and Lise Meitner discovered nuclear fission (but only he received the Nobel Prize for the discovery). He is referred to as the father of nuclear chemistry.[2] He was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1944 for the discovery and the radiochemical proof of nuclear fission.[3] This process is exploited by nuclear reactors and is one of the basics of nuclear weapons that were developed in the U.S. during World War II.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

    Funny enough Hann recieved the Fermi prize in 1966...
     
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