To be an 'African-American' one would not be an ancestor of white slave owners in Jamaica. If anything she is predominantly Indian since the other side is diluted both white and black.
Your link doesn't discuss African Americans. It discusses Africans who have recently emigrated to America. Those are different issues.
Which is the point. Most blacks in the US, two thirds came to the US after slavery. There is an assumption made that most blacks here had slave owning ancestors.
Its true and in California, she ran as and was elected as the states first indian American woman. India thinks she's great and write about her.
This is totally misinformation as usual. Call them what you will, Black people came from Africa and very few managed to get to the Americas without having slaves in their ancestry at some point in history. Kamala Harris has a dad listed as being Black. Her dad said: " Recalling the lives of his grandmothers, Donald Harris wrote that one was related to a plantation and slave owner while the other had unknown ancestry." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris This amounts to one of Kamala Harris' four great grandmothers was related to a plantation and slave owner, so let's focus on just that one individual. The slave trade was abolished in Jamaica in 1807 and indentured servants were recruited to continue the important sugar production on plantations. Kamala Harris was born in 1964 "The House of Assembly in Jamaica resented and resisted the new laws. Members (then restricted to European-Jamaicans) claimed that the slaves were content and objected to Parliament's interference in island affairs. Slave owners feared possible revolts if conditions were lightened. Following a series of rebellions on the island and changing attitudes in Great Britain, the British government formally abolished slavery by an 1833 act, beginning in 1834, with full emancipation from chattel slavery declared in 1838. The population in 1834 was 371,070, of whom 15,000 were white, 5,000 free black; 40,000 'coloured' or free people of color (mixed race); and 311,070 were slaves.[26] Over the next 20 years, several epidemics of cholera, scarlet fever, and smallpox hit the island, killing almost 60,000 people (about 100 per day). Nevertheless, in 1871 the census recorded a population of 506,154 people, 246,573 of which were males, and 259,581 females. Their races were recorded as 13,101 white, 100,346 coloured (mixed black and white), and 392,707 black.[37]" Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica "My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (née Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me). The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, land-owner and agricultural ‘produce’ exporter (mostly pimento or all-spice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown’s Town (and where, as a child, I learned the catechism, was baptized and confirmed, and served as an acolyte)." Source: https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/kamala-harris-jamaican-heritage/ I haven't found records on when Kamala Harris' ancestors lived, but the great grandmother was born Christiana Brown with the last name of Hamilton Brown who is on record as a plantation and slave owner. If I had to guess, I'd put Kamala Harris' dad being born in 1934, her grandmother in 1904 and her great grandmother named Christiana Brown in 1878, with a bias towards a later date. Claiming Kamala Harris isn't Black is like the Obama born in Kenya nonsense. Having a very distant ancestor is hardly proof of anything.
"The town was founded by Hamilton Brown (died 1843) who is buried in the local Anglican church.[8] Dr James Johnston who had been born in Scotland in 1851 arrived in Jamaica in 1874. He started his Jamaican Evangelical Mission in 1876. Johnston created nine churches but the base of his medical mission and his religious assemblies were in Brown's Town. Johnston became the political representative for St Ann's Parish before he left to explore Africa.[9] In the 1890s he took a team of Afro-Caribbean Jamaicans to England where they were equipped themselves to complete a 20-month journey of 4,500 miles through south central Africa. Their journey was photographed and described by a book published in 1893. Brown's Town became significant as a market centre in the mid-19th century following the abolition of slavery.[citation needed] According to Kamala Harris’ father (Donald J. Harris) the Democratic presidential hopeful’s great-grandmother (Christiana Brown) was a descendant of Hamilton Brown, a Jamaican slave plantation owner who founded the city of Brown’s Town, Jamaica. According to Donald J. Harris, Christiana was born in 1889[10], 46 years after Hamilton Brown died in 1843[11] so he is not Christiana's father. He is potentially Christiana's great grandfather, but it is unclear how she became his descendant given that Hamilton Brown has many black descendants in Brown's Town, St Ann, Jamaica. According to one elderly local in 2010; "A good amount of Brown live here, you know," he said. "People what name Brown pack up the place. It all coming from Hamilton Brown who the town name after. Yes man, dem teach it in school."[12] It is possible that Christiana's mother was one of Hamilton Brown's slaves or the daughter of one of his slaves." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown's_Town Here's some dates to help the Misinformationists make a better case.
You don't appear to be following along. I never claimed she isn't black but like Don Lemon of CNN first posited that she is not African-American since she has no association with American slavery.
Worry about yourself following along for a change and stop talking about other posters. Just deal with the subject. Claiming someone isn't African-American is mumbo jumbo nonsense. It's possible to be African-American and not be associated with American slavery, not all Blacks were brought to America as slaves. It's also a mistake to identify all slave owners as White, they weren't. Nobody knows the history of Kamala Harris' ancestry, it's all speculation beyond what we do know. We don't even really know if Christiana Brown was related to Hamilton Brown or what race Hamilton Brown was. He could have been a Black pirate, originally from New Orleans, for all we know. It's also very common for slaves to take the last name of their slave owners once freed. It would only take one ancestor leaving America and going to the north coast of Jamaica to create a African-American lineage in Jamaica. I did come up with a date of birth for Christiana Brown of 1889, which is as far back as we can trace Kamala Harris' ancestry for certain. That's a long time after slaves first appeared in America. The important thing is how Kamala Harris identifies herself.
Her dad does and he is the one that says her ancestors were white plantation slave owners. She could identify herself as a Martian but that doesn’t make it true.
More bullshit, the dad never said anything of the sort and you know it. You constantly post misinformation. Martians weren't mentioned in the debate.
No he did. He let that cat out of the bag after she told interviewers that her jamaican family smoked marijuana-basically crapping on her family for a lame stereotype she thinks will get her in office.
You say, but you don't post evidence. I've read what was said and Kamala's dad only claimed his grandmother claimed she was a descendent of the plantation owner. Is Brown a common name for White people? It's a very common last name in Brown's Town, Jamaica, but it's hard to say all those people named Brown are a descendent of Hamilton Brown, who died 5 years after slavery was totally abolished in Jamaica. Taking the last name of a former slave owner was a common practice. For all we know, Hamilton Brown might not have been White. Jamaica was having labor problems after the slave trade was abolished and laws were passed protecting slaves. Many indentured servants were imported.
You can find the evidence easily enough with google. Brown is a common name. And yes, many indentured slaves were imported-from india. But that was years after slavery was outlawed, and her ancestor predates that. So does her great grandmother who also owned slaves.
I posted the evidence and indentured servants, not slaves were being imported into Jamaica years before slavery was abolished, which was abolished in Jamaica nearly 30 years before the US. Indentured servants have to work for a period of time to repay the debt of getting them to that job. Is Brown a common name for White people in Jamaica? Back then, White people weren't common in Jamaica. Like I said, for all we know, Hamilton Brown could have been a Black pirate from New Orleans or Haiti and his last name could have been anglicanized from a French surname Brun. Common surname only means the name is used often enough to stand out amongst others, not that people commonly have that surname. Many of the most common surnames for the English and German came from what trade the person did, like Smith and Tailor. I've met many Blacks with the surname of Brown, few Whites. Give it up, it didn't work for Obama's birth certificate and it isn't going to work for Kamala Harris not being Black. It's just more misinformation that the right wing uses with their friends the Russians.
If I thought that, I would have said that. Can't you tell the difference between what a poster says and your imagination?
He brought up Don Lemons comments and you mentioned not caring what other posters said.. Just admit you did not know and move on.. Or are you just going to keep digging deeper... Knock yourself out.
Like I said the dates, etc suggest that Black Hillarys ancestors did indeed own slaves, complete with plantation. Don't worry though, if she happens to get to the general election, all of her history, her past comments, etc are fair game. Her racially divisive actions are absolutely typical of california leftists. The rest of the nation hasn't fully figured out how nuts they are.
You said: "and you mentioned not caring what other posters said." Post me mentioning that. I can't teach you how to read, but you can start by stop reading into things. The name of this thread is "Kamala Harris isn't black", so explain why posting anything supporting that title, the way Hooser8 does, isn't posting misinformation. How in hell can it even be determined if a great grandmother born in 1889 was accurate about being related to a plantation owner who died in 1843, 5 years after slavery ended. I seriously doubt all those people with the last name Brown in Brown's Town, Jamaica are his descendants. We don't even know the ethnicity of the plantation owner. I've reported the facts and that's one thing the people who post misinformation don't like, but it isn't me who doesn't know. I pointed out Kamala Harris' history before 1889 can't be known and posted proof.
He mentions Don Lemon and you say Worry about yourself following along for a change and stop talking about other posters. Just deal with the subject. this all started with "Kamala Harris is *not* an American Black. She is half Indian and half Jamaican," the critic, who identified as African American, wrote. "I'm so sick of people robbing American Blacks (like myself) of our history. It's disgusting. Now using it for debate time at #DemDebate2? These are my people not her people. Freaking disgusting." The OP is one of your ilk.. Take up the thread title with him.. All Don Jr's retweet said basically the same thing Don Lemon said.. If one is racist then both are. Or take it up with https://twitter.com/ali
Who knew that "Jamaican" was a race? Such interesting revisionist history comes from modern conservatives. I suppose they have a point, as the "Whites-Only" signs had "But blacks are okay if they're Jamaican" sub-clauses printed on them. Oh wait, they didn't say that, meaning this conservative argument is even dumber than their usual arguments.
So posting all that only proves you wrong, because it has nothing to do with what you said: "and you mentioned not caring what other posters said.", and I said post where I mentioned that. That's the typical style posters of misinformation use.
