About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, you claim that homicidal gas chambers existed at Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, and several other camps.

    Where are they and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to heat the Zyklon B to a gaseous state and then introduce the gas into the gas chamber and, later, exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?

    You see, Zyklon B can not be activated by simply dumping it on the floor, it needs to be heated to 79.3 degrees (F) in order to reduce it from a solid form to a gas.

    Meanwhile, not a single gas chamber with ventilation system has been found in any of the German run camps unless you believe the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" really is a homicidal gas chamber.

    Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?

    Yes, it would take hundreds of gas chambers to to execute even a million people because of the time required to maintain the equipment, exhaust the deadly gas & clear the room yet not one homicidal gas chamber has been found. Why?

    Probably the greatest flaw in the homicidal gas chamber myth is the fact that the skin on many of the gassed bodies would have been cherry red according to Johns Hopkins(1) yet eyewitnesses no mention of that shocking & noteworthy fact nor do any other survivor accounts report that the bodies of gassed victims were cherry red which is the most obvious feature.

    Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?

    There is additional evidence that the "gas chambers" myth is just a grisly fraud:
    EXCERPT:
    • 1). Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.

    • 2). There have been thousands of investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed—AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS!

    • 3). Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus.

    • 4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED(2)

    Now, I'll be glad to discuss Auschwitz crematoria capacity & related issues after you express your thoughts on fictitious reports of homicidal gas chambers.

    (1) "Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet
    Signs and Symptoms
    EXCERPT
    "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
    CONTINUED



    (2) “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/
     
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    false.


    false

    very very false


    the Red Cross has acknowledged many times the existence of gas chambers and the millions of Jews killed by the Nazis
     
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    Many death camps guards and Sonderkommando have been intereviewed and detailed their experiences with the gas chambers and other mass-murder methods.

    many Nazi officers have admitted to the crimes.

    most were not tortured and gave their testimony of their own free will.

    Himmler and Eichmann both admitted to the murder of millions of Jews, under no duress.

    many Nazis admitted to their crimes against the Jews, at the Nuremberg Trials.

    some day they were all just lying or were forced to tell their tales, but this is merely baseless speculation.

    there were many more trials of Nazis in the West after Nuremberg, with more Nazis admitting to what they did.

    all of them tortured? drugged? please.
     
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    Höss began testing and perfecting mass killing techniques on 3 September 1941.[27] His experiments made Auschwitz the most efficiently murderous instrument of the Final Solution and the Holocaust's most potent symbol.[28] According to Höss, during standard camp operations, two or three trains carrying 2,000 prisoners each would arrive daily for four to six weeks. The prisoners were unloaded in the Birkenau camp; those fit for labor were marched to barracks in either Birkenau or one of the Auschwitz camps, while those unsuitable for work were driven into the gas chambers. At first, small gassing bunkers were located deep in the woods to avoid detection. Later, four large gas chambers and crematoria were constructed in Birkenau to make the killing more efficient, and to handle the increasing rate of exterminations.[22]

    Technically [it] wasn't so hard—it would not have been hard to exterminate even greater numbers.... The killing itself took the least time. You could dispose of 2,000 head in half an hour, but it was the burning that took all the time. The killing was easy; you didn't even need guards to drive them into the chambers; they just went in expecting to take showers and, instead of water, we turned on poison gas. The whole thing went very quickly.

    Höss experimented with various gassing methods. According to Eichmann's 1961 trial testimony, Höss told him that he used cotton filters soaked in sulfuric acid in early killings. Höss later introduced hydrogen cyanide (prussic acid), produced from the pesticide Zyklon B, to the killing process, after his deputy Karl Fritzsch tested it on a group of Russian prisoners in 1941.[5][4] With Zyklon B, he said that it took 3–15 minutes for the victims to die and that "we knew when the people were dead because they stopped screaming"
     
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    at some point @Grau, you will have to admit that there is too much detailed testimony from too many unrelated people to all be lies and the result of torture, drugging or coercion.

    without evidence of drugging, torture or coerced testimony, their statements about the gassing and other mass-killing must be accepted as legit.
     
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    After World War II ended in 1945, Bruno Tesch and Karl Weinbacher of Tesch & Stabenow were tried in a British military court and executed for knowingly providing Zyklon B to the SS for use on humans.[46] Gerhard Peters, who served as principal operating officer of Degesch and Heli and also held posts in the Nazi government, served two years eight months in prison as an accessory before being released due to amendments to the penal code.
     
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    Just claiming "false" to facts that I have already supported or can support is no rebuttal.

    Please show just one homicidal gas chamber complete with the extensive ventilation system required.
     
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    Rudolph Hoss' testimony IS reliable, as it has been corroborated by others:

    The reliability of these memoirs can be tested by comparing them to independent corroborating evidence. All of the essential eyewitness testimony corroborates Höss's memoirs on Auschwitz. Pery Broad, an SS man stationed at Auschwitz while Höss was the commandant, wrote of the gas chambers and crematoria in his memoirs. 12 Similarly, they are confirmed by the diary kept by SS physician at Auschwitz Johann Kremer. 13 The post war testimony by victims and perpetrators at the Belsen trial in 1947 of many guards who served at Auschwitz is further corroborating evidence. 14 There was also a great deal of victim and perpetrator testimony at the Auschwitz trials in Frankfurt, Germany in the mid 1960s of 20 defendants who were stationed at the camp. 15

    In the case of Auschwitz there is also a great deal of documentary evidence which has survived that supports Höss's memoirs in all details. The following analysis will examine this documentation to test the reliability of the memoirs

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    Höss on Gassing and Mass Murder
    Höss wrote about a secret order (29;155) given in the Fall of 1941 to kill all Soviet commissars and political functionaries in the camps. Such individuals were consistently arriving at Auschwitz. Höss then recounts (30) how the first gassing of Soviet POWs took place in the cellar of Block 11, an execution block where prisoners were usually shot or hanged, but not gassed. However, this appears to be either the first gassing that took place in Block 11 or one of two gassings. 16 Block 11 was unsuitable for gassing because it took two days to air out the cellar. Höss then states that the gassing of Soviet POWs was moved to Crematorium I. Jews (31) were gassed elsewhere.

    How reliable was Höss? A card index for Soviet POWs for the Fall of 1941 shows that 9997 were brought into the camp. 17 The Auschwitz morgue registries - not to be confused with the Auschwitz Death Books 18 - show that 7343 Soviet prisoners died in the four month period from October 1941 through January 1942, an astounding 73%. 19

    Holocaust deniers argue that there was no first gassing of Soviet POWs in Auschwitz. 20However, in 1994, Cracow's Institute for Forensic Research did a comprehensive study of the structures at Auschwitz identified as homicidal gas chambers. The Institute found traces of hydrocyanic acid, the poison gas used for mass murder, in the cellar of Block 11, the place identified by Höss as the site of the first gassing. Moreover, the Institute also found that there were low levels of such acid when compared to the other gassing sites, thus substantiating Höss's statement that Block 11 was abandoned early on as a gassing site because of unsuitability. The Institue also found hydrocyanic acid in Crematorium I, where Höss states that the gassing operations for Soviet POWs were moved to. 21


    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/hoess-memoirs/

    Höss also wrote (42) of witnessing at Treblinka large trucks and tanks that "were started up and the exhaust gases were fed by pipes into the gas chambers...." This was the preferred gassing method at Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and the gas vans which patrolled Soviet territory. His observations are confirmed by a "Top Secret" memo dated May 16, 1942 on activities in the occupied Soviet territories from SS Lieutenant August Becker who reported that "to come to an end as fast as possible, the driver presses the accelerator to the fullest extent. By doing that the persons to be executed suffer death from suffocation and not by dozing off as was planned." Four weeks later a memo was sent from the Reich Security Main Office in Riga requesting "the shipment of 20 gas hoses for the three S-vans" which are to be used on a "transport of Jews which has to be treated in a special way [which] arrives weekly." 25 At about the same time another report from the Reich Main Security Office mentions that since December 1941, "ninety seven thousand have been processed using three vans." The report mentions that "n order to facilitate the rapid distribution of CO [carbon monoxide] ... two slots ... will be bored at the top of the rear wall." It states that the "pipe that connects the exhaust to the van tends to rust, because it is eaten away by liquids that flow into it." 26

    Höss wrote (44) that the Auschwitz gas chambers were furnished fn27: Inventory with showers in order to give the impression of a real bathhouse. An inventory list from the camp authorities for Corpse Cellar 1 of Crematorium III lists "14 showers" and one "gas tight door." 27 Deniers have had a difficult time explaining why a shower and a gas tight door would be in a corpse cellar. Höss also wrote (32,44) of removing gold teeth from the mouths of gassing victims. Such testimony was common among survivors. The completion document for Crematorium II states than in the basement where there are two corpse cellars is a gold processing room. 28 Two months earlier, on January fn29: Vergasungskeller 29, 1943, one of these corpse cellars was identified as a "gassing cellar" in a report by the camp construction authority. 29
    Höss states (32) that in the summer of 1942 five barracks were built near two bunkers. The two bunkers had been converted to gas chambers in the wooded area of the Birkenau camp, known as Auschwitz II, that were used to murder Jews. These two gas chambers preceded the ones in the four Birkenau crematoriums, which became operational in 1943 and were also used for gassing (36). The barracks were used as undressing facilities. A memo from the Auschwitz Construction Authority from July 1942 requests "four huts [Stuck Baracken] for the special treatment [Sonderbehandlung] of the prisoners at Birkenau." This document is the first one to support all of the eyewitness testimony on the existence on these structures. 30 Höss also wrote (38) that the term "special treatment" was a designation from Eichmann of Jewish transports to be murdered.


    Höss wrote (37) that gassed bodies from Crematorium V were burned mostly in pits behind that structure. An aerial photo taken of the complex on May 31, 1944 shows smoke rising from an area behind Crematorium V. The photo was first made public in 1983. 40 A recent photographic enhancement of this photo by the supervisor of cartographic applications and image processing at Caltech/NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena shows prisoners being marched into Crematorium V. 41 There is also a well known photo showing naked bodies being burned at Birkenau in the open. The landscape background of this photo shows that these bodies are being burned behind Crematorium V. 42 An aerial photo of the Birkenau area taken on June 26, 1944 show ground scarrings behind Crematoriums IV and V consistent with pits. 43

    Höss wrote (36) that a sixth crematorium was planned. The idea was abandoned because Himmler ordered a halt to the exterminations in 1944. A letter to Höss dated February 12, 1943 from the head of the Auschwitz Construction Agency states that the idea for a sixth crematorium had been discussed with an engineer from the company that built the ovens. 44
     
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    The following is just one example of the extensive use of torture etc used in the widely condemned Nuremberg "Trials"

    'CONFESSIONS' UNDER TORTURE
    https://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd03.html

    The American Judge Edward L. van Roden, one of the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was subsequently appointed to investigate the methods of justice at the Dachau trials, revealed the methods by which these admissions were secured in the Washington Daily News, January 9th, 1949. His account also appeared in the British newspaper, the Sunday Pictorial, January 23rd, 1949. The methods he described were: "Posturing as priests to hear confessions and give absolution; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoners finger-nails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement and near starvation rations." Van Roden explained: "The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months ... The investigators would put a black hood over the accused's head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses ... All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators."


    Meanwhile, all ethical jurists were repulsed by the Soviet style Nuremberg "trials"

    "The Greatest Swindle of All Time"
    http://chemtrailsgeelong.com/holohoax.html
    EXCERPT
    Travesty at Nuremberg

    Do the war crimes trials prove the Holocaust narrative? Consider the following quotations from Nuremberg-contemporary authorities and other sources:


    “The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence.... The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof.......”

    - From the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (a.k.a the Nuremburg Farce)

    "I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled. Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamour of the time. The concept of ex post facto is not congenial to the Anglo-American viewpoint on law."

    - US Associate Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, Nuremberg contemporary

    "... a fantastic desecration of the ideals of Western Civilisation, and appalling miscarriage of justice... a misuse of evidence for vicious ends, all of which will someday be exposed as a shocking travesty of high legal and moral principles."

    - Professor Henry M. Adams, Ph.D

    “About this whole judgment there is the spirit of vengeance, and vengeance is seldom justice. The hanging of the 11 men convicted will be a blot on the American record which we shall long regret.”

    - US Senator Robert Taft, 1946

    "Chief US prosecutor Jackson is away conducting his high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg......I hate to see the pretence that he is running a court and proceeding according to common law. This is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas."

    - US Supreme Court Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone
    CONTINUED
     
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    a web site about the Holocaust titled "chemtrails"?????????

    really Grau?

    even you should know that makes it totally questionable and obviously illogically and irrationally paranoid.
     
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    Not only were many folks convicted at Nuremberg and the other trials, lots of folks were also found NOT GUILTY!!!

    if this was a Jewish plot to enact justice upon the Nazis and their colloborators, why did they find some of them innocent due to lack of evidence?

    hmmmm?
     
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    by the way, if Hoss was tortured into literally making up false details about Auschwitz and mass-murder, he has an amazing imagination.

    he made up dates, quantities, false conversations, details, numbers.

    wow, he should have wrote a Harry Potter novel!!!

    crazy how his "stories" were also independently verified.

    give it up Grau, the Holocaust happened, millions were gassed and u cant fight the truth
     
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    About half of the participant to the Wansee conference were either found not guilty or served only a few years, including the guy who wrote the Nuremberg laws...
     
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    I never said that the holocaust didn't happen nor have I denied that there were exterminations under Stalin, Gingrikh Yagota (1), Pol Pot, Mao and other perpetrators of equal or greater mass killings.

    I simply reject the grisly embellishments & inflated numbers used by a few people in the world (2) to depict the holocaust as somehow more horrific than any other of man's many mass killings.
    In other words, I, like the vast majority of the world do not believe the inflated, profit driven standard holocaust narrative.

    There were already enough innocent casualties on all sides & there was enough global misery without inflating the numbers of just one facet of WW 2 for the political and financial benefit of fraudulent entities like the Holocaust Claims Conference.(3)

    Now, if we are to have a productive exchange, there needs to be continuity in our dialogue.

    In other words, you need to answer my supported assertions in my Post #505 with more substantive responses than:
    "False....,False.....,False...," and then posting a smokescreen of unrelated trivia.

    My questions were:

    1. Where are homicidal gas chambers and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to heat the Zyklon B to a gaseous state and then introduce the gas into the gas chamber and, later, exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?

    2. Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?

    3. Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?(4)

    In my Post #515, I've already shown that the confessions were obtained through torture & listed readily available quotes from ethical American jurists condemning the Soviet style Nuremberg "Trials" as a "lynching", "sanctimonious fraud" and worse.

    Even Edgar Eisenhower, (Gen. Eisenhower's brother) called the Nuremberg trials a "...black page on the history of the world..."(5)

    "I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…"
    Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney: Brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower



    Again, please answer the 3 questions I've listed

    (1) "Stalin's Jews"
    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people"CONTINUED.



    (2) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED


    (4) "Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet
    Signs and Symptoms
    EXCERPT
    "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
    CONTINUED




    (5) "President Eisenhower’s Brother, An Attorney, Condemned The Nuremberg & Eichmann Trials"
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/pres...attorney-condemned-nuremberg-eichmann-trials/
    QUOTE:
    "I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…"
    Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney: Brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
     
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    Even better, the website is from some nutter living in a town outside Melbourne, Australia. When I say 'nutter' I am not being flippant. This person is seriously unwell:

    Apparently the town of Geelong has been subject to 'urban noise terrorism from the government using the most lethal weapons in its vast arsenal - train drivers!!!!

    It is remarkable the extent to which conspiracy theorists all sound alike and are all just as convinced that their odd obsessions qualify as 'truth'. Given that it should come as no surprise that they cite each other as credible sources - they think this is what 'credible' looks like!
     
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    While you may ridicule the web site, you cannot refute the veracity of the quotes I cited, they can be found throughout the internet.

    The following web site has even more confirmed quotes condemning the fraudulent lynching known as the Nuremberg "Trials":

    http://pascasher.the-savoisien.com/2010/10/parodie-de-proces-et-torture-nuremberg.html

    Quote:
    In his book, Profiles in Courage, President John F. Kennedy praised Senator Robert A. Taft of Ohio, for having the courage to publicly denounce the Nuremberg Trials and reveal them to have been held in, « a spirit of vengeance, and vengeance is seldom justice. In these trials we have accepted the Russian idea of the purpose of trials – government policy and not justice – with little relation to Anglo-Saxon heritage. »

    « I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…. I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground. » – Edgar N. Eisenhower, American attorney, brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower

    « It is my considered opinion that the Nuremberg Trials violated the reputation for justice so long held by the British and American peoples, and that many of the findings contravened our most sacred constitutional principles. » – – Air Vice-Marshal Hugh Champion de Crespigny, R.A.F., C.B., M.C., D.F.C.

    « The Nuremberg Trials were a tragic mistake. They will haunt us always. » – Major General James E. Chaney, USAF

    « … a fantastic desecration of the ideals of Western Civilisation, and appalling miscarriage of justice… a misuse of evidence for vicious ends, all of which will someday be exposed as a shocking travesty of high legal and moral principles. » – – Henry M. Adams, Ph.D, Professor of History, University of California
     
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    And yet...

    [​IMG]
    Amen!
     
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    You keep trotting out the same debunked nonsense about the holocaust on other threads but quickly scurried away from the 3 simple questions I posed in my Post # 520 over 3 weeks ago.

    What's wrong...cat got your tongue?


    My questions were:

    1. Where are homicidal gas chambers and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to heat the Zyklon B to a gaseous state and then introduce the gas into the gas chamber and, later, exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?

    2. Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?

    3. Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?(1)





    (1) "Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet
    Signs and Symptoms
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    "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good news for holocaust survivors:

    German Government to Quadruple Payments to 'Holocaust' Survivors

    There are some 200,000 Holocaust survivors living in Israel. Tragically, around 50,000 of them live around or below the poverty line.
    Aviva Silberman, welcomed the agreement.

    “Finally they raised the compensation level for Holocaust survivors,” she said, explaining that the compensation law (Bundesentschädigungsgesetz) hadn’t been updated since the 1960s.
    The lengthy negotiation between the authorities resulted in the signing of a memorandum of understanding, according to which survivors will receive an additional €100-€400 per month. This increase will raise total funds that Germany pays them each year to €15 million.

    Survivors from North Africa, for example, who suffered from the Holocaust but were not directly swept up in it, do not receive compensation from Germany. The same goes for emigrants from the former Soviet Union and survivors who did not undergo forced labor.

    “It is the role of the Germans to take care of these populations as well,” Silberman added. “It’s not Israelis who are responsible for the Holocaust. It’s not you and me who have to pay survivors from our taxes.

    “While the government does need to take care of these additional populations, it also needs to come from Germany,” she said, adding that “I think they should continue to negotiate with the Germans as successfully as they did now, so that they recognize these populations as well.”

    Read full report here:
    https://russia-insider.com/en/germa..._21_2014)&mc_cid=ed0b3f2a85&mc_eid=b58c3b6d47
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    I agree, the Germans should pay while they can. Less money for weapons to fight illegal wars for the US is a good thing.
     
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    No, I changed my mind! More money for Israel is not a good thing. Israel is a rogue terror state!

    Latest Unprovoked Israeli Attack on Syrian Civilians...

    Israeli jets stealthily approached Syria via Lebanese air space and rained missiles at multiple targets in the suburbs of Damascus and Homs in Syria!
    Sixteen people, including a baby, were killed and 21 others suffered injuries, including a month-old baby girl, who suffered burns and facial wounds.


    The missile attack constituted the violation of national sovereignty and territorial integrity of two UN member states — Lebanon and Syria.

    Israel committed a war crime by killing innocent unarmed civilians.

    Read more here:
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    "The eleventh Command: Israel is allowed to do anything."
    Almost daily Israel demonstrates just that, and the world keeps quiet.
     
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    Bolsheviks - financed by Wall Street Republicans as I have proven many times on this forum.
     
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    and how often do we hear bout this in our news in Canada, the US or the UK, pretty much never it is such a common and accepted by Government occurrence but Iran shooting down a drone in it's own air space - top of the front page!
     
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