Rapinoe Vs Trump

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  1. Mac-7

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    Save your pity for the girls looking up to gay female soccor players
     
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    Are you telling us lesbians are celibate in high school?

    Because high school girls can be very distracting

    Assuming the girls arent dating the lesbian soccer coach
     
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    So do I
     
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    Not just homos

    Is equally dislike people who have sex with animals and children also
     
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    Nah....that’s for the bigots to do.
     
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    I’m surprised to hear you admit indifference toward lesbian recruitment of young girls
     
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    Thank you for providing more laughs. Comparing “homos” to pedophiles and bestiality is priceless stuff.
     
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    This recruitment thing is only a fantasy in your mind.
     
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    The choices from 2016 was more or less a pick your own poison election. Arsenic Trump or Cyanide Clinton. I have always held independents have the more accurate view of a president than either those who are Republicans and Democrats. Obama's first term average was 48% overall and 43% among independents. He won reelection in Nov 2012 with a 51% approval from independents, 52% overall. Timing is everything when it comes to elections. Trump on the other hand has averaged a 43% approval over all, 5 points less than Obama and a 41% approval average so far among independents. Only two points difference from Obama's.

    The main question is where will these numbers be come November 2020? I don't expect much change among Trump as his approval numbers has been the most consistent of any president. Between 37-45%. Obama ranged from 38-69%, G.W. Bush from 25-90%, Bill Clinton 37-73, G.H.W. Bush 29-89, Reagan 35-68%, Carter 28-75. All the presidents on the list with the exception of Obama had the same or lower lowest approval rating. Obama was only one point higher with his lowest vs. Trump's lowest. But every other president's highs were much higher than what Trump has been able to achieve.

    Trump's average approval number is the lowest of any president going back to FDR when Gallup and Pew Research began keeping track of these things. I think that with the right candidate that can attract independents, the Democrats win in a landslide based on the numbers. A candidate really disliked by independents ala Hillary Clinton, a repeat of 2016 is possible. We know Trump isn't much liked by independents, the question left to be answered is whom will the Democrats nominate? In 2016 57% of independents disliked and didn't want Trump, but 70% disliked and didn't want Hillary. So the ball is in the Democrats court as to whom to nominate. In my opinion 2020 is an election for the Democrats to lose, Trump can't win it, but the Democrats can lose it. 2016 was another election where it was the Democrats to lose, they did. One final question, have the Democrats learned the lesson from 2016 that candidates matter? Especially to independents which make up the largest voting block of the national electorate.
     
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    Incompetence! Yes! What else would you call a presidency that has not a single relevant piece of legislation passed. Not one! Well... the tax cuts for his friends, if you want to call that "significant" But nothing of value to the country.

    The rest of your post has no content and your link takes me to a post by Sandy Shanks with which I completely agree, but doesn't contradict anything I said.
     
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    You are laughing past the graveyard and its not fooling me
     
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    No...I'm actually laughing...at you ;)
     
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    Do you think I care?
     
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    Don't care if you do or don't. I'm going to laugh either way....:D
     
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    And I’m going to not care
     
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    Yay for you
     
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    I don't just "think" that Trump sucks. I have submitted countless arguments to support this conclusion. Can you or can you not counter them?

    If you can counter my arguments, let's hear it. This is a debate forum. And that's what debate forums are for. If you can't counter my arguments, then just acknowledge that you don't find any flaws in my arguments. Easy as that.

    I have absolutely no interest in what "most democrats" or "most Republicans" think. I only defend my own conclusions, and nobody else's. And here it's your arguments against mine. There is nobody else in the discussion.
     
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    While I am no fan of Dirty Donald neither am I great fan of Rapinoe,who acts like she is a teenager making dumb jokes about throwing F bombs.She needs to grow up and act her age, and realize she is representing her country.
     
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    Soccer final viewership now down by half thanks to Rapinoe Trump bashing and politicization of the sport.
     
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    I'm neither pro or anti Trump. I feel no need to defend or defame him. Like most democrats you have your reasons to dislike him, most republicans have their reasons to like him. R vs. D. It's all that simple.
     
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    Or for her team and herself. She doesn't appear to give a damn about her country.


    You can do better than that.
     
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    You still don't get it! It's not a matter of being pro or anti Trump. It's a matter of looking at the facts and seeing where those facts lead you.

    A rational person can be pro Trump, and the facts lead them to change their mind. Or vice-versa. I changed my mind regarding Obama. My candidate was John Edwards. I wasn't pro or anti Obama. I became pro-Obama when I saw the facts of things he did and I concluded they were pretty good. I became anti-John Edwards when the facts of what he did took me there.

    Facts are what should guide us. Not "being".

    I lay out facts. Facts point me to Trump being a lousy President. If you have any counter-facts, I can change my mind in a micro-second. I have looked for them, and just haven't seen them.

    It's not a matter of "defending" or "defaming" him. It's about figuring out where the facts lead. The facts are there.

    I respect people who look at facts and see them in a different way than I do, thereby reaching a different conclusion. I do not respect people who plainly refuse to look at the facts. And even less those who refuse to look at them and refuse to reach a conclusion. These I see as intellectual cowards.
     
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    Trump's strategy for being re-elected appears to be even more divisive, demonizing the "other", and pandering to a fanatical, highly motivated minority of Americans.

    I think that Democrats could do far worse than, while continuing to advocate forcefully for progress in environmental issues and medical coverage, as well as equality in racial, gender, and gender orientation equality, emphasize a
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    in blue-collar, bread and butter issues.

    I have the feeling that the volatile, unstable Sturm und Drang of Trumpery is just too demanding for most Americans to be forced to endure much longer. His new world disorder has become tiresome.

    Democrats should seek a dull, stable, steady, boring person.

     
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    Because her love to her country is not demonstrated by "appearances" but by actions.

    Anybody can hug a flag. That's easy. Not everybody gets up at 5 in the morning to train and give every ounce of their strength and effort for their country. That is hard!
     
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    Holy s$$t. Hell just froze solid.
     

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