Trump announces executive order aiming to obtain accurate count of citizens in the US

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by apexofpurple, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2018
    Messages:
    5,552
    Likes Received:
    7,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Today's press conference was short but the gist of it is that the census will not contain the citizenship question and the administration will instead pursue more comprehensive strategy for determining a count of citizens, visitors, and illegals that they believe will have better results than a questionnaire. AG Barr reminded us that the SCOTUS didn't opposes the existence of a citizenship question (rejecting the left's claims of racism issues) instead opting for absurd and clearly political reasons to reject the reason why the Commerce Dept wanted to include it in the first place.

    In the end the fight continues and I actually think its better this way. The President is seen to be compliant with an ridiculous ruling (his predecessor would regularly ignore rulings that he didn't like) while the left is seen to be once again placing of illegal immigrants ahead of the welfare of the nation. And this will continue as this data will be used to determine funding and voting law for years to come. The left will undoubtedly be unable to resist picking illegals over their countrymen in these faceoffs and while it will make their shrinking base happy it will also provide increased support for Republicans.

     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2019
  2. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Great job. We get the needed info, plus more.

    Dems look like the bad guys yet again.

     
  3. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    8,000
    Likes Received:
    14,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    That's all well and good, but I don't know how on earth he's planning to do it....

    The question should have been allowed on the census. Period.
     
    Bridget, glitch and Tim15856 like this.
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think the states that issue illegal alien drivers licenses might have some useful info.
     
    TBLee, Steve N, APACHERAT and 2 others like this.
  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree it should have been allowed-it was a crap ruling.
     
    Steve N, APACHERAT and Libby like this.
  6. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,452
    Likes Received:
    32,206
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Big Whoop.

    Trump got Defeated and OWNED on his Epically FAILED Attempt to add the citizenship question to the 2020 Census.

    Slam Down DEFEAT for Trump.

    As far as what Trump announced?

    The Census Bureau suggested that he do that last year.

    Once again. Big Whoop.

    There is Universal Consensus that Trump got Totally OWNED.:salute:
     
  7. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Notice how :censored: aid and provide comfort to criminal foreign nationals with deportation orders while trump fights for the American people?
     
    Bridget, glitch, TurnerAshby and 4 others like this.
  8. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2018
    Messages:
    5,552
    Likes Received:
    7,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The various lower court judges judicial activists who allowed frivolous SJW rhetoric to survive their courts are to blame. Thankfully President Trump has been hard at work adding new judges the bench. His administration might lose a few battles in here and now but I think ultimately a greater war will be won because this President has done more to disrupt the cancer of tyranny than any man since our founders.
     
    Bridget, Tim15856, Steve N and 2 others like this.
  9. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    8,000
    Likes Received:
    14,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Yes, good point. Although I don't know how many states issue illegal alien driver's licenses, other than California? (I looked it up ;) "Twelve states and the District of Columbia enacted laws to allow unauthorized immigrants to obtain a driver’s licenses." The states are: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington. Also "In 2019, legislators in several states introduced legislation to provide driver’s licenses to undocumented residents including Florida, Kansas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, and Texas." http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/states-offering-driver-s-licenses-to-immigrants.aspx)

    I just find it wasteful and redundant to have to do a different count, when this question should have been on the census.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2019
    Steve N and US Conservative like this.
  10. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Its a striking contrast.
     
    TheGreatSatan likes this.
  11. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    21,269
    Likes Received:
    21,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :censored: literally step over tent cities full of needy homeless Americans to help needy homeless foreign nationals at the expense of the needy homeless Americans.

    :censored: make poor Americans compete with needy homeless foreign nationals for resources meant for poor Americans.
     
  12. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,452
    Likes Received:
    32,206
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol:

    Not even CLOSE.

    As to the OP, Trump is just doing exactly what the Census Bureau suggested last year.
     
  13. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Agreed... WHAT's the Executive Order?? Count non citizens? That's an executive order??

    Pretty generic.

    Next Executive Order??

    Cure Diseases....
     
    WalterSobchak and rcfoolinca288 like this.
  14. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Caution Caution - Lemonade Making IN Progress......
     
  15. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,287
    Likes Received:
    22,667
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Correction, he lost in the courts and was defeated on that account, but he won the issue politically, he wasn't "owned."

    Poll: Two-Thirds of Voters Say Citizenship Question Should Be Allowed on Census
     
    Bridget, TurnerAshby, TBLee and 4 others like this.
  16. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Dems are the party of the 3rd world.
     
    Steve N likes this.
  17. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,452
    Likes Received:
    32,206
    Trophy Points:
    113
  18. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,456
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Got to say I'm proud of the cleverness here
     
  19. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,456
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And he still gets the information this way anyway so... who cares?
     
  20. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2018
    Messages:
    5,552
    Likes Received:
    7,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well it is. There simply wasn't enough time to defeat all of the frivolous challenges but they would have been defeated. I think this underlined point is not getting enough attention. The challengers knew there was a short clock on this one and they knew the snails like pace of the court system would be their best ally. They won the battle to keep the question off the census but we should all pause a moment and consider just how dirty of a fight it was. Justice didn't succeed, devious strategic maneuvering did. Imagine if that's how every case played out. /shrug
     
    Steve N and US Conservative like this.
  21. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    SNIP
    "We spend $20 billion on a census," Trump told attendees. "They go through houses, they go up, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. How many toilets do they have? How many desks do they have? How many beds? What's their roof made of? The only thing we can't ask is, are you a citizen of the United States. Isn't it the craziest thing?"
    ENDSNIP

    Best of luck, pal.... As our Founding Fathers once said "We have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of private roofing materials"

    From my COLD DEAD HANDS will THIS government find out what MY roof is made of......

    WTF??
     
    WalterSobchak and Darthcervantes like this.
  22. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I suspect he won't.... Not in time anyway...
     
  23. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
  24. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,452
    Likes Received:
    32,206
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True.

    So why did this Trump IDIOT try to add the Citizenship Question in the First Place?

    Trump really is a MORON.
     
    mdrobster likes this.
  25. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Information the government already has.

    And you don't see how this is total bs? They already have the information.
     

Share This Page