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Can abortion be compared with The Holocaust?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by DennisTate, Jun 30, 2019.

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Do the unborn feel emotional and / or physical pain during their abortion?

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  2. Yes

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IF the articles are basically true that
    support the theory that the unborn feel pain......

    then the comparison between the Holocaust on the Jewish people during WWII with the
    killing of millions of unborn is obvious to anybody with an open mind!

    https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/

     
    DennisTate, Jul 9, 2019
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dennis...I once gave you limited disdain and ridicule concerning your "Interesting" opinions and hypothesis. I now consider you to be unworthy of such temperance and will treat you accordingly. This comparison is extremely offensive and by forwarding it you are as well.

    Have A Nice Day:(
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    The thought that anyone could compare the unspeakable suffering, unimaginable terror and horror, and despicable acts that Jews and others went through in the Holocaust with the quick painless death of an entity that can't think or feel, hasn't even been born or experienced life, is quite despicable.


    To minimize what the Jews and others went through by comparing it to abortion is sickening.


    The NAZIS TOOK AWAY JEWS RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BODIES WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT ANT-CHOICERS WANT TO DO TO WOMEN.

    THAT is the SIMILARITY!!!!

    Do you know anything about the Holocaust? WHY DIDN'T YOU ANSWER THAT???


    SHOW ME where fetuses are tortured. SHOW me how a fetus suffered what Jews suffered.... YOU CANNOT.




    "lifesitenews!!! HILARIOUS...it's an oft debunked ANTI-WOMEN'S RIGHT SITE...aptly called LIEsitenews….



    ...and OBVIOUSLY you don't know much about the Holocaust or you wouldn't think being gassed or shot were the only things that happened to Jews.....OR DON'T YOU CARE????


    I don't have to. First I didn't make your asinine claim YOU did... and second I KNOW LIEsitenews is an ANTI-ABORTION site....



    Then why TF not use science ??!!!! BECAUSE IT WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.

    Obviously VERY minor if you think the Jews died quickly with no torture or suffering...suffering that lasted a life time for those who survived.

    It isn't minimized and YOU HAVE NEVER SHOWN THAT FETUSES SUFFER TORTURE BEFORE DEATH.




    They are not intended to.....they are intended to draw attention to baseless allegations and hideous comparisons of those who think fetuses suffer what Jews did ….

    They are used to draw attention to :

    The thought that anyone could compare the unspeakable suffering, unimaginable terror and horror, and despicable acts that Jews and others went through in the Holocaust with the quick painless death of an entity that can't think or feel, hasn't even been born or experienced life, is quite despicable.


    To minimize what the Jews and others went through by comparing it to abortion is sickening.


    The NAZIS TOOK AWAY JEWS RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BODIES WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT ANT-CHOICERS WANT TO DO TO WOMEN.

    THAT is the SIMILARITY!!!!









    They don't.




    Are fetuses tortured ? NO

    Do aborted fetuses lose all their family, do they watch their own BORN children get shot, gassed, starved? NO


    Are fetuses shot, gassed, starved ? NO.

    Are fetuses loaded on to trains like cattle and driven to camps where they are starved and tortured? NO.


    Do they lose all their possessions? NO.

    Are heinous experiments carried out on them ? NO.

    Are fetuses BORN people with rights ? NO.



    The thought that anyone could compare the unspeakable suffering, unimaginable terror and horror, and despicable acts that Jews and others went through in the Holocaust with the quick painless death of an entity that can't think or feel, hasn't even been born or experienced life, is quite despicable.


    AND is minimizing what Jews went through as if it wasn't much at all...…


    Seems there is a "problem" acknowledging what the Jews suffered (?????)

    Could it be that the Jews aren't "Christian" ??????????????????????
     
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  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent..... "A film devoid of conflict is boring." (R. W.)
     
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    You think your denigrating of what Jews endured is "excellent" ???


    I am NOT surprised...GAG!!!!
     
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    I think that there are some comparisons between the Holocaust with the death of three thousand Americans in the
    terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 as well as with the Holocaust on the unborn.

    Three near death experiencers were shown several similarities between those three events. Howard Storm, Dr. P. M. H. Atwater and Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera.

    What happened to the souls of those who died on September 11, 2001?

    THE CHALLENGE OF SEPTEMBER 11


     
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    OH you are squirming now!!!!!!!!

    Suddenly you switched from denigrating what non-Christians went through to the 9/11 victims, going off topic in your own thread !

    The thought that anyone could compare the unspeakable suffering, unimaginable terror and horror, and despicable acts that Jews and others went through in the Holocaust with the quick painless death of an entity that can't think or feel, hasn't even been born or experienced life, is quite despicable.


    AND is minimizing what Jews went through as if it wasn't much at all...…


    Seems there is a "problem" acknowledging what the Jews suffered (?????)

    Could it be that the Jews aren't "Christian" ??????????????????????
     
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    I am NOT the only one squirming Fox!

    This is a Closed Group and somebody may have to join the group to see this image....... but I will try to post it if possible......



    https://www.facebook.com/groups/ComprehensiveEnergyInternational/permalink/763359470746680/

    "One Billion Strong Praying for President Donald Trump"


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    WHAT is it...a fetus MOVING ? Ya, DUH, they move.

    YOU are comparing THAT to what Jews suffered? How sick!!!


    OH you are squirming now!!!!!!!!

    Suddenly you switched from denigrating what non-Christians went through to the 9/11 victims, going off topic in your own thread !

    The thought that anyone could compare the unspeakable suffering, unimaginable terror and horror, and despicable acts that Jews and others went through in the Holocaust with the quick painless death of an entity that can't think or feel, hasn't even been born or experienced life, is quite despicable.


    AND is minimizing what Jews went through as if it wasn't much at all...…


    Seems there is a "problem" acknowledging what the Jews suffered (?????)

    Could it be that the Jews aren't "Christian" ??????????????????????
     
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    Why aren't there any Christians in here supporting you????
     
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    I now find you to be offensive AND disgusting. At this point Dennis, I see absolutely no redeeming qualities in the persona you project and cannot wish you a good day in good conscience....just understand that you are losing any support and understanding you once had....any God of decency will clearly reject you.
     
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    He is an embarrassment even to them.
     
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    Thank you.......
    I have two ex - wives that you might wish to meet if you
    rise to the occasion and attempt to put together a series of
    documentary or reality films where you attempt to stop me.... DennisTate
    from altering the economy of Canada, the USA and the whole world through
    proposed films and / or books and / or screen plays set perhaps partly in the
    Canadian province of Alberta?!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually.... you are correct.... I am an embarrassment to perhaps seventy to ninety percent of Christians who attend church on a regular basis!

    I have serious anger issues with pastors that can be traced back more than three decades.......

    I suspect that there are quite a few Roman Catholic priests and nuns..... (especially the Charismatic variety)......
    who might just kind of identify with some of the ideas that I have thrown out there on this and other forums.....
     
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    Unfortunately. like them I realized you are not worth the effort.
     
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    It would seem your issues go far beyond anger.
     
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    My first thought when someone compares abortion to murder or the holocaust is

    "Wow, what absolute cowards pro-lifers are."

    Nobody really thinks this, or you'd see some actual action to stop abortions.
     
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    Unless we also feel that the aborted foetuses go to a relative positive afterlife.........
    much like how Howard Storm was shown happened for Jews during the Holocaust of the Nazi era......
    Or to how three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater was shown was happening for the majority of the victims of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on America.
     
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    You do seem to have the opinion that a poll of people unaware of science or fact somehow gives credence to total BS.
     
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    Amoeba will move away from a hot needle. Guess they feel pain. We need a national policy to save the amoebas.
     
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    Are you sure that wasn't Howard Stern?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've read studies that the type of people who participate on forums like politicalforum .com tend to be well educated on average and well above average income. You are correct though.... they could be extremely well informed on one or two topics but ignorant of other important fields of study.
     
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    The Trail of Tears was closer to the Holocaust but you folks don't ever want to bring up that skeleton in America's closet.
     
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    Snatchurally...
     
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