Iran Seizes Two UK-Operated Tankers

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  1. Migrunt

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    Wrong. The Ayatollah is the boss.
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kinda looks that way.

    The last thing Iran wants to see is Trump being reelected.

    Iran wants a liberal or preferably a lunatic progressive in the White House who loves Muslims, Sharia law and a world without borders..

    They are hoping that if Trump uses the military and bombs Iran it will help Trump from not being reelected.

    This is Iran's way of meddling in our 2020 presidential elections.
     
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    Not more than usa or saudi arabia does.

    I dont know if Ayatollah is a cool guy. He appears rather intelligent though. Not like trump, who is a joke
     
  4. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We were heavily involved with the British during the Falklands war.

    We provided intelligence to the Brits and who refueled those Royal Navy warships at sea ?
     
  5. Sobo

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    We plan to buy oil of them worth 60 billion €.
     
  6. Jeannette

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    The president of Iran is elected, but it is an Islamic country so he doesn't have full control.

    The President of Iran is the head of government of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The President is the highest ranking official of Iran. The President carries out the decrees, and answers to the Supreme Leader of Iran, who functions as the country's head of state. Unlike the executive in other countries, the President of Iran does not have full control over the government, which is ultimately under the control of the Supreme Leader.​
     
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    Lies, there is no international embargo.

    Its an EU embargo. Iran is not a member of EU. Thsts also the reason why the EU dismiss the UK and is unsupportive, spain called it an act of piracy and british boot licking at usa.
     
  8. ronv

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    You need to save the "but Obama" defense since it was Bush's status of forces agreement.
    But having said that they did finally fight for their country didn't they.
    Why should more of our people die fighting for the 1/2 the Iraqis in a war that never should have happened?
     
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    Sobo we can only control other nations if they use American dollars through the SWIFT system. Outside of it we can't, because we don't know what they're doing. Iran like Russia, China, Turkey and Venezuela work outside of SWIFT. I assume Germany will do the same - or at least in this instance.
     
  10. AFM

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    Bush negotiated all he could. It was up to Obama to continue. Obama is responsible for the worst foreign policy decision since Neville Chamberlain. The history is clear. We stayed in Germany and Japan after WW2. We left Korea and what happened. Obama is either stupid or corrupt if he pulled everyone out for political reasons.

    Iraq was safe, stable, and secure with a murder rate much less than Brazil which hosted the last Olympics.
     
  11. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember when President Lincoln ordered the naval blockade of the southern states in rebellion and would stop and seize British, French and Dutch ships on the high seas who were trying to run the blockade ?

    Remember the most famous merchant raider in history, Capt. Simms and the CSS Alabama ?

    Was Capt. Simms a pirate or a commissioned officer of the Confederate States Navy during war time ?

    Remember the Cuban missile crisis and the U.S.Navy blockade of Cuba ?
     
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    Gibberish - This is not 1776
     
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    Spare me .. some nation - sanctioning another nation has nothing to do with the laws of the sea and does not make the British action any less a violation of those laws - any more than it makes Iranians seizing a British vessel legal.

    I already posted the laws of the sea - so quite stating otherwise - and under those laws the British action was piracy.

    Regardless .. even if you want to live in denial of these laws - If the Brits didn't violate them then neither did Iran.
     
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    I agree that a blockade is an act of war. The question is then .. what is Britain doing engaging in acts of war against Iran ?
     
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    So why didn't they keep it that way?
     
  16. APACHERAT

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    It was Obama who caused this mess.

    The Syrian civil war is the first proxy war of Cold War ll.

    Russia wins the first proxy war.

    It was the Obama administration, liberal and progressive Democrats and a few neons who started Cold War ll.

    I'm betting that the Democrats will do exactly what they did back during the first Cold War...surrender and refuse to pay for and fight the Cold War.

    Lets hope there's another Ronald Reagan over the horizon to win Cold War ll.
     
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    So far I only see one country trying to break through the embargo blockade...Iran.
     
  18. Sobo

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    There is no embargo blockade, russia sends oil there as well.

    UK does not stop russian tankers.

    Show the said international embargo. When was it signed and which international authority does it have? Was it signed by UN security council? Doubt that China and France would do that.

    Now i have news for you...US sanctions are not international nor global.
     
  19. APACHERAT

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    Iran is an Islamic rouge state and has to go.

    Iran has had 39 years to play the game by the rules and have refused to do so.

    President Jimmy Carter didn't have the cajones to deal with Iran when they committed an act of war by occupying sovereign American soil, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

    Being a pantwaist liberal Democrat isn't a valid excuse.
     
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    So?
     
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    So you support terrorists. Cool. Good luck.
     
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    Obama had no choice but to abide by the SOFA.
     
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    try reading up on the embargo you might learn something, the UKs actions where lawful in enforcing the embargo.

    Just because Germany is willing to bend over and grab its ankles doesn’t mean everyone else has too.
     
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    How strange is it that only the UK is willing to enforce an EU embargo
     
  25. APACHERAT

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    Does Vladimir Putin know this ?

    How about Assad ?


     

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