Man says he was beaten in NYC for wearing MAGA hat

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  1. US Conservative

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    Yeah the left leaning bias of the MSM is totally a conspiracy theory.

    Good luck.
     
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    You mean a person....right?

    People implies more than one.
     
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    ...Seriously....that is supposed to be a source?

    MY blog is better than that one, and I don't even have one.
     
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    It's not surprising it has come to this, and was predicted by many. When leftists like Antifa were permitted to roam free, committing destruction against public property, disallowing people to speak, and then attacking innocent people there will be a reaction. If the public leaders won't and the police can't do the job then some members of the public will feel forced to act. The public disrespect of the police by the leftists, and even against citizens enjoying an evening out, also makes society more tense. Leftist violence
    over the years. coupled with their extreme anti social behavior and encouraged by their leaders, has not gone unnoticed. People are just sick of it.


    All caps, btw, is not necessary.
     
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    Spoken like a true groupthink anti-freedom leftist. There is little difference between the modern day left winger and a Nazi. You people look more like Nazis every day. Isn't that how it started for Hitler. Jews being attacked in the streets. Now your people want Trump supporters to be attacked in the streets.

    The victim looked like a person of color to me and there is nothing a low information left winger hates more than a person of color who is a conservative.

    I love it when ultra libs show their true anti-American views. This post is an excellent example of why those of us in non-liberal States should never surrender our right to own and carry firearms.
     
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    Yet the only side with the fastest rising total in the statistics crowd is right winged violence something most myopic people do in their math equations is only enter half the equation trying to get a truth, but, that is not how logic a reason work...You can't stop the violence by being blind in one eye and unable to see out of the other.It is both sides which has their violent tendencies whether you care to admit it or not..
     
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    I did not know that the man attacked protesting outside a Trump rally that was assaulted had anything to do with antifa. Even if he did, it certainly looked as if the lunatic Trump supporter criminally assaulted him. It probably didn’t help that Trump has repeatedly riled these whacky cultists up and suggested using violence to shut the opposition up. There are several video taped incidents of Trump doing exactly that and even suggesting that he would pay the legal fees of those potential felons.

    I for one, am in favor of fully prosecuting any and all of the idiots who attacked the man with the red hat or anyone else who attacks people for their political beliefs. That’s a no brainer. Also, I would never consider voting for a person who would stand in front of a frenzied political rally and suggest beating up protestors. See what I mean Fred? There are definitely violent idiots on both sides in these extremely polarizing political times, but it seems to me that Trump has acted in a way that is very reckless and irresponsible.
     
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    If you were born 10 or so years earlier, you probably couldn't avoid them. I was a newborn when I was brought to the Jim Crow South, so my actual experience in it doesn't matter. I was too young to know my mother was drinking from the wrong water fountain or sitting in the wrong area of a restaurant. My mother went to cities to shop with someone else also packing kids and told me about the experience later. Jim Crow laws worked both ways, so white people from areas that had no such laws were like fish out of the water in those places.

    People are products of their times in various areas of our country and the experience isn't uniform. Various areas experienced the change of the civil rights movement in different ways and the major events, like the assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK and attempted on George Wallace changed our experiences, if we were old enough to experience, or remember the stories. Putting Wallace in a wheelchair ended the Dixiecrat opposition in the South, the Republicans intentionally designed a strategy that would cost them the Black vote and get them the southern vote.

    Having lived thru those times being a 'Sputnik Child', I have the sense to know more was going on in the world back then. Those were 'Cold War' times and all the top people in government knew our civil rights problems were being used by the Communists against us and times had to change. The Republicans spearheaded the civil rights movement, then switched strategy to attract disenfranchised southern Democrats, it was a swap of Blacks for them, but they didn't know how much Black support they would lose. Having just lost the last Black Congressman in a political party should be a hint about how things are working out in the now for the Republican Party. That district down there in Texas to be vacated has some of the poorest counties in the US, it's highly Hispanic and I don't picture a white conservative Republican gaining that seat in the House.

    Depending on your age and location, various White Supremacist movements were happening. The KKK and Nazis once were more active in their demonstrations and parades, so something like Charlottesville, Va. only proves the same mass demonstrations can be accomplished now. All that's needed is an excuse, like the removal of a statue. If connected to a college or military, all types of groups are present. When I start seeing left wing militant groups appearing, I expect a crackdown on demonstrations, before things get too much out of hand. It isn't like people demonstrate in corn fields and the cities won't want to put up with the nonsense, if they can avoid it.
     
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    I don't believe the story, do you? Where can you find gangs of 15 kids like this guy claims and only one of them will punch you in the eye? I don't see it on the police report, was the guy just wandering around for days seeing stars and later concluded it was the hat? Should I overlook the guy lives in the land of the hoax and just happens to look Hispanic with a MAGA hat? Which is rarer in the whole of the USA or any place you can identify as an area of it, a Hispanic wearing a MAGA hat or a group of 15 or so teenagers or kids? I find it suspicious that two such rare things would meet together. It looks staged to me.
     
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    LOL, you dint pay attention much.
     
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    Of course. You think all munorities are on the dem plantation.
     
  13. Gary/Dubya

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    It's not a myth and Barry Goldwater was heavy into designing the southern strategy. Goldwater also didn't vote for civil rights legislation.

    If the southern strategy didn't change the voting of Blacks and the southern Democrats, what did? Obviously, it's changed and people who lived thru it know why it changed. It's only common sense the Republicans would try to take advantage of a split in the Democrats that the civil rights issue caused.

    I realize the fashion of our times is for conservatives to claim history doesn't exist, but come on, the record speaks for itself. Many of those states in the deep south still have the remains of Democrats running many state offices. It wasn't like everybody switched to Republican.

    'Nothing is what it is' is too Russian for my taste. The southern strategy is well documented.
     
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    No known Nixon speeches, no known republican rallies ever support the idea by Democrats there was a magic Southern strategy. But they tell this tale of woe with impish grins on their faces as if they can persuade me.

    From a researcher.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/402754-the-myth-of-nixons-southern-strategy

    The Democratic Party’s claim to be the party of the good guys, while the Republicans are the party of the bad guys, hinges on the tale of Richard Nixon’s so-called Southern Strategy. According to this narrative, advanced by progressive historians, Nixon orchestrated a party switch on civil rights by converting the racists in the Democratic Party — the infamous Dixiecrats — into Republicans. And now, according to a recent article in The New Republic, President Trump is the “true heir, the beneficiary of the policies the party has pursued for more than half a century.”

    Yes, this story is in the textbooks and on the history channel and regularly repeated in the media, but is it true? First, no one has ever given a single example of an explicitly racist pitch by Nixon during his long career. One might expect that a racist appeal to the Deep South actually would have to be made, and to be understood as such. Yet, quite evidently none was.



    So progressives insist that Nixon made a racist “dog whistle” appeal to Deep South voters. Evidently he spoke to them in a kind of code. Really? Is it plausible that Nixon figured out how to communicate with Deep South racists in a secret language? Do Deep South bigots, like dogs, have some kind of heightened awareness of racial messages — messages that are somehow indecipherable to the media and the rest of the country?


    This seems unlikely, but let’s consider the possibility. Progressives insist that Nixon’s appeals to drugs and law and order were coded racist messaging. Yet when Nixon ran for president in 1968 the main issue was the Vietnam War. One popular Republican slogan of the period described the Democrats as the party of “acid, amnesty and abortion.” Clearly there is no suggestion here of race.

    Nixon’s references to drugs and law and order in 1968 were quite obviously directed at the antiwar protesters who had just disrupted the Democratic Convention in Chicago. His target was radical activists such as Abbie Hoffman and Bill Ayers. Nixon scorned the hippies, champions of the drug culture such as Timothy Leary, and draft-dodgers who fled to Canada. The vast majority of these people were white.

    Nixon had an excellent record on civil rights. He supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He was an avid champion of the desegregation of public schools. The progressive columnist Tom Wicker wrote in the New York Times, “There’s no doubt about it — the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years or probably since. There’s no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived and led the administration’s desegregation effort.”

    Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd.

    Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South.

    Nixon recognized the South was changing. It was becoming more industrialized, with many northerners moving to the Sunbelt. Nixon’s focus, Phillips writes, was on the non-racist, upwardly-mobile, largely urban voters of the Outer or Peripheral South. Nixon won these voters, and he lost the Deep South, which went to Democratic segregationist George Wallace.

    And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party.

    The progressive notion of a Dixiecrat switch is a myth. Yet it is myth that continues to be promoted, using dubious case examples. Though the late Sens. Jesse Helms of North Carolina and John Tower of Texas and former Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott all switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, none of these men was a Dixiecrat.

    The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.

    Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party. Somehow the party that promoted slavery, segregation, Jim Crow and racial terrorism gets to wipe its slate clean by pretending that, with Nixon’s connivance, the Republicans stole all their racists. It’s time we recognize this excuse for what it is: one more Democratic big lie.

    Dinesh D’Souza is a conservative political commentator, author and filmmaker, and former president of King’s College, New York. His book, “Death of a Nation,” is #5 on the New York Times bestseller list. His movie of the same title is in theaters nationwide.
     
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    I added documentation proving it was a myth. It still is a myth and always will be a myth. And Barry Goldwater never became president.

    Those massive changes spoken of in the South took place due to efforts by Reagan and Newt Gingrich and were divorced from the Goldwater or Nixon eras.
     
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    sure, keep believing that, Trump just does and says so many bad things, the media has no choice but to talk about it
     
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    Even the Jews say he is racist in defense of Cortez. lol
     
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    Actually, I think all minorities and many whites totally reject the Republican Party and why wouldn't they? I think you just don't want to entertain the idea that the other side is a rejection of your side. You can imagine they believe this or that, but you can't imagine they don't believe in the crap you believe in, because they believe they know better. All those other people aren't real in the minds of the right-wing and they demonstrate that at times, when they aren't going bat **** crazy and discovering other people with more rational opinions exist.
     
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    My father was from NYC. He went to college Spring Break in Florida in 1952 and was freaked out by Jim Crow. He got on a bus and took the first seat he could find, which was in the back. The bus driver begged him to sit in the front of the bus with the whites, but he declined. The bus driver was pissed.
     
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    71% of American Jews voted for Hillary in 2016. So, of course the American Jew would accuse Trump of being racist. They don't don't like Republicans.
    https://forward.com/news/353914/by-the-numbers-3-key-takeaways-from-the-2016-jewish-vote/

    Meanwhile, Israeli Jews Love Trump More Than Almost Any Other Nation, Poll Shows...
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-almost-any-other-nation-poll-shows-1.6515377

    Conclusion. American Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic and Israeli Jews overwhelmingly support the Republicans.

    Why the big disconnect?
     
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    It strikes me that if more people understood how racist Abe Lincoln was, they may not honor him in DC
     
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    So what is the solution to people beaten badly by Antifa?
     
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    Well I got a bad knee. not sure I can out run her, but I will give it the Ol' college try.
     
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    We're talking about institutions like the simon wiesenthal center.
    I do think they got a clue what is racist.
     

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