Where are the missing Jews?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So first you call it phony then you say even if it isn't its just one of those run of the mill type confessions of convenience.

    I bet you haven't even watched his interview, where he matter of factly explains how ordinary people can become stone cold mass murderers.

    Here's the first of the 7 videos covering the entire confession.

     
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    ....and were off again with a different set of figures. You know precisely which figures I am referring to because they have been referred to repeatedly on this thread. Of course, you can't answer the question so you play dumb and obfuscate.

    What happened to the Jews in these figures? - the ones provided by the Nazis themselves. You have repeatedly refused to answer that question. You have repeatedly changed topic and obfuscated.

    Just answer the question.
     
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    OH LOOK FUN WITH MATH! Tactic 10 in how to be a "revisionist scholar"

    Amazing. Where did the jews go? Oh wait they were still there after the war, so the holocaust didn't happen. Really a newspaper told me so.

    this little item has been debunked for decades. Never mind the Wanasee numbers compiled by the Nazi's themselves. YOu think they'd miss a few million jews hiding in plain sight?

    Seems deniers are totally prepared to believe the Nazi's were so stupid they'd commit orders for genocide in writing AND would undercount their jewish population by 50%.

    Well, nobody said deniers were the brightest bulbs in the box.
     
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    Oh and a drain can't be plugged? Wow, keep trying hard to come up with something that can actually debunk the facts. The morgue was converted to a gas chamber - it was the first one - i.e. prototype. - then the other's were built.




    No the reason you reject holocaust estimates and the grisly realities of it is because they are jew haters and nazi apologists who, point out the few fraud artists then with bigotry and malice aforethought extrapolate to all of the holocaust narrative. Naturally they cannot understand that this argument a classic tactic of bigots.


    KREGE WAS A CLOWN WHO NEVER PUBLISHED HIS "FINDINGS" . EVEN MATOGNO HAD TO DISASSOCIATE HIMSELF FROM KREGE.

    An amateur who never had used the equipment before that day of his "extensive" search, . He made all these claims of finding nothing and promised to publish his findings, but he never did.

    But you knew that. Every denier knows how truly inept and stupid Krege was, but that doesn't stop them. Besides Krege has been totally superceded by an actual scientific analysis endorsed by the museum at treblinka that found EXTENSIVE mass graves containing human ash. So keep lying your arse off while ignoring the truth.

    https://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html
     
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    Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, had lots of cremation ovens.

    enough to cremate millions of bodies every year

    duhhhhh
     
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    of course not all 6 million were gassed or cremated. The Einstazgruppen tended to have their kills sloppily buried. Burial pits have been found all over the damn place including the camps.
     
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    Re:

    Rather that report your vulgar & insulting "Post" for violating forum rules, I decided to let others see the desperation in your need to slander those who debunk your fictions.

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" Socrates

    You are the one who claimed that the Morgue was originally built as a "prototype" of a homicidal gas chamber so why would they install the drains that run throughout the rest of the complex only to plug them later?

    They wouldn't.

    Connecting gas chamber drains to the sewer lines in the rest of the facility would poison everyone in the surrounding buildings.

    Why build a gas chamber immediately next to the Gestapo's office and in the same building as cremation ovens?

    Again, the answer is simple. They wouldn't and didn't.

    No one would build a homicidal gas chamber or even a defumigation chamber in an area where people regularly come and go so the morgue was never designed or built to be a homicidal gas chamber.

    Your contention that the morgue in question is precisely an example of holocaust propaganda that defies simple logic and common sense.

    In your desperation to promulgate factually flawed holocaust mythology, all you've got are a few contradictory stories, grossly inflated statistics, name calling and slander.

    The majority of people in the world reject your lies and see through your desperate need to insult those who debunk your fictions as "Jew haters", Nazi apologists, "Clowns", "bigots" etc because slander is the primary tool of a debunked holocaustian since facts & common sense are against the standard holocaust narrative.

    It's only natural that you would use your vast stock of puerile insults on Engineer Richard Krege & his team who, after 3 weeks of using an $80,000 GPR machine, found no mass graves.

    Because he didn't have the vast sums of money available to minions of the Holocaust Industry to publish his studies does not negate his findings in which he found NO MASS GRAVES. (1),(2)

    I see that you have trotted out the already debunked C.S. Colls who, in fact, has found only a few bones of indeterminate age in an old, marked, gentile graveyard and confused a maker's mark on tiles with the Star of David as "evidence" of another "gas chamber".


    "Smithsonian Red-Faced after “Treblinka Star of David Tiles” Shown to be Not Jewish At All"
    http://newobserveronline.com/smithsonian-red-faced-after-treblinka-star-of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/

    EXCERPT "The Smithsonian Institutes’ TV documentary division has been severely embarrassed with the revelation that its recently-released “Treblinka: Hitler’s Killing Machine” documentary—which claimed to have “proved” the existence of “gas chambers” at Treblinka because of the discovery of “tiles with Stars of David,” is an extremely amateurish hoax."CONTINUED

    I stand by the following sources in spite of your childish personal attacks on engineer Krege & his team who found nothing in the areas claimed to be "mass graves"

    (1) "No Bodies Found at Treblinka"
    http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/01/no-bodies-found-at-treblinka.html



    (2) "Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves"
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n3p20_radar.html

    EXCERPT "A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there."CONTINUED
     
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    I've already repeatedly answered your question earlier in this same thread.

    Since you have so much free time, remember that WW 2 displaced tens of millions of people & read my earlier posts on this and related threads.
     
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    If you want a response, you'll have to answer the 3 simple questions I've asked long ago:

    My questions were:

    1. Where are homicidal gas chambers and the auxiliary rooms with extensive fans & ventilation systems that were needed to heat the Zyklon B to a gaseous state and then introduce the gas into the gas chamber and, later, exhaust the deadly gas from the room so that the bodies could be cleared?


    2. Do you believe that the morgue at Auschwitz that is falsely labeled as a "gas chamber" is genuine or simply a fake used to deceive gullible & poorly informed individuals?


    3. Why are there no reports of seeing cherry red skin by any of the survivors?(1), (2), (3), (4), (5)



    (1)"Johns Hopkins"
    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/publications/cyanide-fact-sheet


    Signs and Symptoms

    EXCERPT
    "Other: acute lung injury, nausea and vomiting, cherry-red skin color."
    CONTINUED



    (2) "Cyanide Toxicity"
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507796/

    EXCERPT "Patients with cyanide poisoning will not be cyanotic but will have a cherry red color due to excess oxygen in the bloodstream."CONTINUED


    (3) "Cyanide Poisoning Treatment, Symptoms & Effects - eMedicineHealth"
    https://www.emedicinehealth.com/cyanide_poisoning/article_em.htm

    1. EXCERPT "The skin of a cyanide-poisoned person can sometimes be unusually pink or cherry-red because oxygen will stay in the blood and not get into the cells."CONTINUED

    (4) "Cyanide poisoning"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_poisoning

    EXCERPT "A cherry red skin color that changes to dark may be present"CONTINUED



    (5) "Cyanide toxicity: Dx
    https://www.openanesthesia.org/cyanide_toxicity_dx/

    EXCERPT "…cherry-red skin, bright red retinal arteries and veins,"CONTINUED
     
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    No, you haven't answered my question, though I'm not surprised you are claiming you have. You made the same vague claims about 'millions of refugees' and then tried to suggest all those Jews converted to Christianity. You provided zero evidence that the missing millions of Jews appeared in other nations or remained where they had lived.

    You won't answer the question because you can't.
     
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    Holocaust Denial is motivated by ONE thing: hatred of the Jewish people.
     
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    Where did I ever suggest that "all those Jews converted to Christianity"?

    It's no wonder that you didn't notice my answer since you didn't read what I really wrote and are now attempting to distort what I did write.

    It's not my fault that you just recently jumped in late into this thread and are unwilling to really read what I've already written.

    The "missing Jews" are simply another fantasy of the author of the OP.
    Since there are nowhere nearly the amount of mass graves found that are commensurate with the inflated number of fatalities claimed by the for-profit, fraudulent, multi-billion dollar Holocaust Industry(1), it is clear that they were not executed.

    Therefore, whatever Jews who were released from the work camps or were liberated simply joined the tens of millions of other refugees left after WW 2 (2), some converted to Christianity, some intermarried with members of the local population, some returned to Germany, some migrated to the US, Palestine, England etc or remained behind the "Iron Curtain" and some, like butcher Solomon Morel ran their own post war genuine death camps in which they tortured & executed innocent civilians with impunity.

    You are probably not aware that the British cracked Germany's enigma code in 1941 and were able to listen in to what was really going on in the camps.(3)

    These facts have been withheld from the general public because they, too, refute the myths about mass gassings & other lies promulgated by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry & blindly believed by gullible, "groupthink" holocaust disciples.


    (1) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED



    (2) "Expulsion of Ethnic Germans after World War II (1945)"
    https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-horrific-genocides-in-history.php

    EXCERPT "However, the forced displacement of some 14 million ethnic Germans and allied Slavs from Soviet Russia, from occupied areas of Eastern and Central Europe in the aftermath of World War II, has to go down as something pretty close to genocide, especially when one considers that between half a million and two million of them didn’t survive the journey.

    While most of these deaths were from famine and disease, many German civilians were also executed outright, or sent to internment and labor camps by the Soviets—
    What makes it genocidal in nature was that only Germans were targeted, and that the brutal policy of forced relocation was ordered by Stalin himself, specifically as a means of retribution."CONTINUED



    (3) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
     
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    ....and still no answer to the question.

    We are talking about millions of missing people. You have not provided a single shred of evidence as to what happened to them. The did not simply go missing from their homes, communities & nations, they were unable to be found by their surviving family members. A few cases of this happening might be credible, but for millions of cases to be accepted you need evidence.

    If you are going to assert that the numbers for the holocaust are dramatically lower than every credible historian with access to the documentation & eyewitness testimony then you are going to have to do better than a bit of handwaving about people migrating or changing names & religion. Show us the evidence of where they went. People don't just magically appear in their millions in places without being documented by the governments of the places they arrive in. It should be easy enough to show where the millions of Jews not killed in the holocaust went. So, time to show us.
     
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    What absolute & laughably simplistic nonsense.

    First, no one here has denied that the holocaust happened or expressed hostile feelings toward the Jews.

    Secondly, far more other groups were persecuted & died miserably during WW 2 than just the Jews.

    To suggest that the holocaust is, somehow more significant than the numerous other greater tragedies throughout history because Jews suffered is profoundly racist as all lives are equally valuable.
     
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    WW2 had just ended for some & tens of millions of people were wandering throughout Europe, the USSR, the Balkans, Turkey and even to Palestine & the US.

    Anyone with even a casual knowledge of this subject knows that rarely do 2 credible historians agree on the same thing so numbers will vary according to your source.

    I've answered the question fully enough for any educated, knowledgable and rational person to be satisfied so I'm certainly not going to waste even more time attempting to placate someone willing to believe outrageous, irrational & impossible fantasies.
     
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    The old "high horse" defense. Sounds high falutin' and all, but I assure you that I express my disdain, disgust and animus deliberately, not because I have no other defense, but because I want to make it crystal clear to all holocaust deniers and jew haters and nazi apologists that I consider them untermenschen.

    And as for Treblinka, you are absolutely correct that a tile was misidentified. Red face there for one of the scientists who leapt to a premature conclusion.

    But there was plenty of evidence of mass graves from the project, regardless what the clowns at IHR would like you to believe. It seems that they, like Krege, have no friggin clue what GPR can actually do when wielded by professionals.

    Her findings have been published and they have been peer reviewed and there isn't a single credible criticism of her paper/results out there.

    But keep up the continual flow of the bullshit required to rebut historical reality. The intellectual bankruptcy is on display for all to see.
     
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    The following posts in this thread PROVE that the motivation for Holocaust Denial, is not a struggle to find the truth but simply hatred of Jews:

     
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    Here is more evidence that the motivation for Holocaust Denial, is hatred of the Jewish people, and not some search for the Truth.

     
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    And there we have it folks. He can't answer the question, he can't provide ANY evidence to back up his claims so he storms off in a fit of name calling. The person pushing the fantasies here is you, though yours are evil and anti-semitic. We all see you for what you are and no amount of questionable sources and handwaving will change that.
     
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    Wow! "evil AND "anti Semitic"

    The last time I can recall being called "evil" was by a delusional & violent cult member when I was working on an inner-city Emergency Psychiatric Unit.

    Meanwhile, I dare you to find ANY comment I have posted that has slandered the Jewish people.

    Being among the vast majority of people in the world who do not believe the inflated numbers and grotesque fantasies claimed by the fraudulent, self-serving, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry does not make one a "Neo Nazi", "anti Semite" or "Nazi apologist".
    It simply means that one is capable of independent thought & unwilling to be deceived into believing physical impossibilities and profitable, self serving holocaust fantasies.(1)

    It is impossible to say what happened to a few million individuals among tens of millions beyond what I have already clarified & supported.

    It is possible to say what DID NOT happen to these individuals as there are nowhere near the number of mass graves that are commensurate with with the claims of the fraudulent, for-profit Holocaust Industry(2) & its complicit MSM.

    As you must know, the holocaust myths are so fragile & transparent that they need legal protection from honest examination and open discussion in almost 20 countries.

    The truth welcomes the sunlight of honest examination & open discussion but a lie can only survive under the darkness of repressive & persecutory holocaust denial laws.


    (1) “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php
    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.”CONTINUED
     
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    The "high horse defense" that frustrates your attempts to perpetuate proven falsehoods is simply an ability to follow forum rules and an ability to look at your holocaust claims with rational objectivity.
    There is absolutely nothing that I have written that is "anti Semitic" or sympathetic to Nazism.
    You only need slander because, like the tell-tale Auschwitz "gas chamber" drain, the facts debunk your fictions.

    Still another set of facts that debunk your delusions over Auschwitz are the intercepted & decoded German radio transmissions.
    As you may know, the British cracked the Enigma code and were able to listen in on what the Germans were saying.
    The reason this information has been repressed is because there is no mention of "mass executions", "homicidal gas chambers", 'round-the-clock cremations and other lies promulgated by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(1)

    "The Enemy Is Listening!"
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028
    EXCERPT "The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates, mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings."CONTINUED

    Face it.
    Your fictitious "homicidal gas chamber" myths are as fraudulent as the earlier fake shrunken heads, fake "human skin lampshades", fake "human fat soap", phony "homicidal steam chambers", fictitious "Conveyor Belt of Death"(2) & innumerable other lies that erase any credibility the standard holocaust holocaust narrative may have had.
    If holocaustians will deliberately attempt to deceive us with those lies, they'll try to deceive us with others such as the fictional "homicidal gas chambers".

    Your typical slandering of electrical Engineer Richard Krege & his team is predictable since their earlier findings revealed no mass graves where they are claimed to be.
    After Krege and his team searched for 3 weeks & found nothing the same authorities who control the place now prohibit any independent examination.(3), (4)
    I wonder why....


    (1) “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    (2) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED



    (3) "No Bodies Found at Treblinka"
    http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/01/no-bodies-found-at-treblinka.html
    EXCERPT "Using the official maps of the camp, the team sampled large tracts of land in all directions around the camp, yet they failed to find any human remains such as skeletons, bone, ashes, or gold teeth. Likewise, no human disturbances such as building remains, tree stumps, or cavities were found. It is thus nearly impossible that Treblinka was a site of mass extermination." CONTINUED


    (4) "The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax"
    https://archive.org/details/TheTreblinkaArchaeologyHoax
     
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    And yet another "Strawman" fallacy since no one here has denied that the holocaust not only happened but affected far more people than just some Jewish individuals.
    Regrettably, the fraudulent, multi billion dollar and profitable Holocaust Industry has attempted to market the holocaust as exclusively a Jewish tragedy while many other ethnic, religious and national groups were persecuted under cruel Nazism.

    We already know that many Jews were not only spared during the holocaust but prospered as members of the Nazi party(1) and about 150,000 full and mixed Jews who rose to the highest ranks and received the highest honors possible in Germany's WW 2 Military(2). Who knows how many additional Jews were either spared or became part of Nazi machinations.

    We also know that far more people do not believe the inflated statistics and grisly fantasies promulgated by the same wealthy & influential Holocaust Industry(3) and its complicit MSM.

    The vast majority of people in the world have either never heard of the holocaust or reject its standard narrative not because they dislike Jews but because they are justifiably skeptical of a proven fraudulent entity(4) that has an established history of telling lies about "shrunken heads", fake "human skin lampshades", fake "human fat soap", homicidal "steam chambers", "Conveyor Belts of Death"(5) and other grotesque fantasies.

    Finally, it is only common sense that makes the vast majority of people around the world reject additional claims made by the same discredited Holocaust Industry that has told so many lies before, not a hatred of the Jewish people.




    (1) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of Jewish descent."CONTINUED


    (2) "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers"
    https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Descent-Military/dp/0700613587


    EXCERPT "Contrary to conventional views, Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought-perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals."CONTINUED


    (3) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (4) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298


    (5) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
     
  23. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no need to slander. I merely point out the plain ugly truth of holocaust deniers, their utter bullshit and lies and their hateful motivations. It is a legal fact that truth trumps slander.

    You have nothing but repetition of bullshit. You ignore facts and believe the clownish amateur incompetents who blundered around in pale imitation of academic expertise and rigor. Why is it that virtually all deniers meet at the intersection of bullshit alley and bigot lane?
     
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    Another "Strawman fallacy" & more slander. Nothing new here except a sore loser.

    I notice that you continue to evade answering why the Auschwitz 1 drain was tied to the rest of the camp buildings if it was designed & built as a "prototype homicidal gas chamber" as you claim.

    At this point I've already debunked your holocaustian falsehoods and have no stomach for more of your puerile vulgarity, insults & fact-free fantasies.

    I'm now content to let rational readers compare our arguments and draw their own conclusions with the knowledge the the bulk of your cult beliefs are based on profitable fictional accounts:

    "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or the gypsies and Freemasons too.
     

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