List Of Top Military Countries

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The following is interesting and shows how much nations are spending and where their priorities are. I'm only posting the US, Russia and China, since they concern us rather than the others.

    What it shows is that Russia with a lot less defense spending has more men and a larger reserve than the US and China. But they do have a large area to protect and they are threatened on all sides by the US and terrorists - and by that I also mean the terrorist threats against their neighbors on their southern flanks as well.

    Also the difference in spending between Russia and China might have to do with China importing raw material, while Russia has its own.

    What's the most surprising is how few men China has in its armed forces compared to Russia whose population is around 150 million. But knowing China they probably are very secretive about it, that is unless they feel a large army won't be needed in a war with the US which right now is their biggest enemy, and that it would be solely an air and sea war.

    By the amount of tanks Russia has, I think Poland and Nato better think twice before poking the bear.

    https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/08/curious-what-are-the-top-5-military-countries/

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    In 2019, the annual Global Firepower ranking included 137 countries in order of military might. During the classification a unique formula was used that allows low-tech countries to compete with more advanced ones.

    Defense Spending:

    US - $716 Billion..... Russia - $44 Billion...... China $224 Billion

    Staff:

    US - 2,141,900...... Russia - 3,586,128..... China - 2,693,000

    Aircraft including transport:

    US - 13,398..... Russia - 4,078..... China - 3,187

    Tanks:

    US - 6,287...…… Russia - 21,932...……. China - 13,050

    Armored Vehicles:

    US - 39.223...….. Russia - 50.049...……. China - 40,000

    Naval Assets:

    US - 415...…….. Russia - 352 ………... China - 714
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Proving positively that our Defense department GROSSLY overpays for what is often the JUNK they buy!!!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The dollar though does have a higher value so that wages and materials here would be much higher than in Russia, but regardless the Pentagon does over pay to keep the shareholders in the military industrial complex happy. I know of one couple whose name I will not mention where one is a writer pushing for more spending and the other half in the government carrying out that policy. I'm sure there are others like that. Russiagate comes to mind.
     
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    Please explain, what have we bought that is junk? Do you not understand how much better our stuff is? I'm not saying we don't overspend mind you just that the stuff we buy isn't junk.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Considering the amount spent, our military equipment should be at least twice as good as Russia's, but are they? Not that I believe we should be spending anything on the military, but we are and for what reason?
     
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    Yes our stuff is twice as good.

    If we didn't spend what we spend on the military Putin would be rolling into Berlin,
    Iran would be rolling into Syria and be preparing to roll on Tel Aviv and China would rule asia and the Pacific.
     
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    Do an online search for "Military junk bought by the defense department",and "Military equipment bought by the defense department that was never used".We waste billions every year buying worthless crap.
     
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    Yeah? You mean like f-14 parts that we are scraping instead of letting surplus buyers sell them to Iran who desperately needs them.. another win for America!
     
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    North Korea has the largest Navy of any country. Unfortunately 60% of their ships are patrol vessels while the US's smaller fleet has 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers.

    Indeed most analyses of raw numbers have North Korea come out on top.

    It is about more than just numbers, even numbers of comparable vessels.

    As an example: what use is a huge supply of military age men in any 21st century world war? The war won't be fought in Flanders Fields.
     
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    you mean those old iranians f14 are a threat to your much more advanced f35/f22 ect ? hmmm intresting i tought your stealthplanes can't be seen until its to late.

    in wich case why waiste money on doing that crap when you could make iran waiste money on spare parts for planes that are useless against yours anyway ?.

    wouldn't be suprised if they can just buy it somewhere else anyway
     
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    I think we should put all those parts on a carrier then have a bonfire with them in the gulf
     
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    Not really. fort-russ.com is the usual Russki propaganda junk with which the Kremlin pollutes the internet.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unlike the MSM that makes up things as they go along, Fort Russ usually mentions their sources, that is unless it's the opinion of their writers - who from my past experience I respect greatly.

    Besides, how else can I get everyday news without the usual MSM spin and lies? There are intellectual sites of course like Moon of Alabama, but they are more into analyzing information and disproving the lies of the MSM than everyday news - which is really what I want.
     
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    By hoarding F-14 parts, Iran is less of a threat to our allies as well.
     
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    It depends on the kind of war being fought. China has naval vessels to protect its coast from the US since it depends on trade. This is the reason China began its new land trade routes. They feared an eventual blockade by the US.

    The US on the other hand will be fighting an offensive war far from its borders, so it needs air and naval power - especially aircraft carriers.


    Russia's war will be a defensive one. They need to protect their 12,577 mile border - which is about half the earth's equatorial diameter. Russia also has to protect states like S. Ossetia and Abkhazia and the former Russian areas in Estonia and Eastern Ukraine. Then there's Belarus that's surrounded by Nato and Serbia. Both are dependent on Moscow.

    When you take those nations into account, the borders under Russia's protection comes to about 16 thousand miles or more. Seems a lot more to me than just Flander's Field.

    Anyway this is why Russia needs a large army and a large tank force, and why it has no use for more than one aircraft carrier. That Putin has managed to preserve the Russian Federation and build up such a formidable force when it has been continually attacked in one way or another, is to his credit.
     
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    Are you sure?
    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...ts-are-very-bad-news-for-tehran-s-adversaries
    Iran’s F-14 Air Superiority Fleet is Actually Growing; Why More Tomcats Are Very Bad News For Tehran’s Adversaries
     
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    That's not even including all the money that goes missing from the Pentagon - an outfit that admits knows it is unable to pass a simple audit - unapologetic-ally so.
     
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    I think it is more the missiles you have to be careful of. The Wahhabi Kingdom the US likes to call an ally is very close and comically unable to defend itself or carry out military operations. The other state US likes to call it's ally was fought to a draw by Hezbollah when it tried to invade Lebanon in 2006.

    Hezbollah has between 50,000 and 150,000 rockets by most estimates and is able to hit targets throughout the ME.

    Us policy of economic strangulation of Iran is playing with fire... kind of cruising for a bruising.

    The US is not ready for the kind of war it is sleep-walking into.
     
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    Iran's defensive doctrine against any potential aggression by the US involves many tiers and many different things, with its large arsenal of ballistic missiles certainly among them. Indeed, that arsenal of ballistic missiles was developed in large measure because Iran wasn't able to import advanced aircraft from any other country and relied on that arsenal to offset its weakness. But progress in the field of missile technology in Iran eventually also meant that Iran is now capable of developing all sorts of very advanced missiles, including air-to-air missiles, which are on par with the very best in the world. With regard to Iran's air force, therefore, it really doesn't matter that the F-14 platform is old. What matters is that the Iranian modernized F-14 (called the F-14 AM - "M" standing for modernized) has various systems, including notably the Fakour 90 air-to-air missile, which have the range and accuracy to shoot down enemy aircraft before those aircraft are close enough to shoot down Iran's planes. There are, of course, aircraft like the F-33 which will not be easy for Iran to detect and which might present different problems, but most of the export version of the aircraft operated by Iran's regional adversaries are identifiable enough for Iran to have a good shot of taking them out.
     
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    Good analysis. Then there is the S-300 missile defense system which is easily able to shoot down American aircraft such as those you noted. I think Russia has so far not sold any S-400s but that could change in the face of a wider ME conflict.
     
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    Besides the S-300, Iran has many domestically developed and extremely advanced air defense systems of its own, most notably the Khordad 15 and the Bavar ABM system. In fact, the American drone recently shut down by Iran was shut down by a much less advanced air defense system developed by Iran, namely the 3 Khordad. The Global Hawk drone that was shut down, you should recall, was a stealth plane operating at an altitude which made its operators assume would neither be detectable by Iran nor subject to being shut down.
     
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    I dedicate this video below (showing one of Iran's F-14AM's firing the Fakour-90 air to air missile against a ground to air missile, hitting its target to you) along with the article below, to you. America should be just tired of all this "winning" by now!


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    If the Iranians have an original part to copy I'm sure they are smart enough to make copies.
     
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    You think Iran is relying on parts that don't exist anymore to fly its expanding fleet of F-14s? After nearly half a century since those planes were first delivered to Iran, after 40 years since Iran was cut off from American parts for those planes, and after a couple decades since the US totally scrapped all of its F-14 inventory of planes to make sure Iran didn't have access to any parts for a plane that no other country except the US had in its inventory, you still think those planes are flying in Iran due to "US parts"?

    The F-14AM is an American design. Its platform is the old F-14 platform simply because we don't need to make a new platform for now as many of the old platforms weren't used for many years and are relatively brand new still. But its radar, avionics, armaments, and many other things about it is not the same. The F-14AM has a new Iranian made radar which is superior to its old radar. The F-14AM has new Iranian made air-to-air missiles which are superior to what made the F-14 a great plane originally, namely the Pheonix air to air missiles they carried. These F-14s aren't called "Tomcats" anymore; they are rightly referred to as "Persian Cats".
     

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