292 MASS shootings so far this year in the United States

Really. You can commit a crime but not knowing it is a crime you are not guilty? If you are doing 55mph in a 35mph zone but didn’t really know that the speed limit was 35 mph the police officer could not cite you?! I love it!

 

Anyone who wants to work to protect innocent people from being murdered is my friend. I don't care if you are a Dem, Rep, Lib, Con, etc. The average person cares and wants to make society better, but are only fighting others who also care. Meanwhile, evil gets to thrive. Real solutions will not come through gun laws, gun free zones, electing a different president, etc.

There is plenty of common ground, but no one seems to be looking for it.

 

Perhaps the lack of a resolution is due to a certain party wanting to keep the life and death issue unresolved for political talking points to further infringe on the rights of the people? President Trump gave them a DACA resolution on steroids (1.8 million illegal aliens instead of only 600,000) and, you wonder if the potential DACA folks noticed, the Democratic Hypocritical leadership thumbed their noses at it, DACA folks and President Trump.

 

Yes, the law, aka, society. Not the constitution.
So, the law, aka, society, can put restrictions on 2A.

 

Good point.
So, the means, if there is any sort of limits imposed, it's against the constitution and the law, aka, society, can impose restrictions to constitutional rights.

 

What resolution are you or your party proposing?
What issues are you thinking the other party is keeping unresolved? And how?

 

No one dies from a crappy bookshelf maker.
No guns will equal no gun deaths. Not that we'll ever have no guns, but that is a simple fact.

And I'm not advocating no guns.

 

I think you're reaching on the pot issue.
Mental health is likely the key point. In most everyone of those cases. One has to be mentally ill to even consider mass murder.

 

Yet the mentally ill.....as you put it.........Have NO problem obtaining a high powered weapon...America might want to work on that....First

 

The mentally ill issue should be priority 1.

 

This El Paso shooter sounds more an more like a lefty.

1 – The shooter stressed the environmental aspects of his motivations by naming the manifesto “The Inconvenient Truth,” clearly utilizing the namesake of Al Gore’s climate alarmist documentary.

2 – The screed ranted against Democrats and Republicans and specifically blamed corporations for allegedly fueling economic woes.

In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important.

3 – One of the main themes inside the manifesto was anti-corporatist ideology. It repeatedly claimed that corporations were engaged in a conspiracy to replace human workers with “automation.” At one point, the shooter even writes that his life was ruined because of the purported move toward automation: “My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist,” he writes. “The job of my dreams will likely be automated.”

4 – The author repeatedly blamed corporations for “the destruction of our environment.”

One section praised The Lorax, a children’s book written by Dr. Seuss and recently made into an animated movie that focuses on the plight of the environment:

Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”.

5 – The document claimed “many” Republican Party “factions” sold out to corporations.

The manifesto claims:

Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it.

6 – The manifesto promoted far-left policies such as universal healthcare and a “universal income.”

In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in itself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system, the better. The lower the unemployment rate, the better.

…

Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed.

7 – The document blamed the Trump administration for recently nearly doubling the number of guest worker visas this summer.

The text states:

Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and unskilled jobs to keep wages down.

The shooter also complained about fresh water currently (meaning during the Trump administration) being “polluted from farming and oil drilling operations.”

8 – The manifesto blamed the “American lifestyle” for “destroying the environment of our country,” and claimed this so-called “decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

9 – Far from singularly expressing ultranationalist ideology, the manifesto actually slams Americans and calls for the general population to be forcibly decreased.

 

Really?....So you okay with ANYBODY getting a High powered weapon?

 

Typical Gun Nut logic....Best dismissed

 

Wow, way to get upset when one agrees with you. LOL.
I have no clue where you come up with something like that.
Why just make up stuff?

What's high powered? I have a semi auto 3006 as a deer hunting rifle. That's pretty high powered by many standards.

 

I’d suggest an investigation into any incident to define the facts. Once the facts are known a reasoned resolution for any shortcoming in our current system to minimize illegal activity with a firearm can be determined.

At one time Dreamers were claimed as the Democratic Party’s concern until President Trump offered a sweetheart deal to resolve the DACA status issue and what did the Democrats do? Rhetorically asked.

In the hours after the most recent mass shootings which party, as it has been their historical blame game practice, had members going on TV and decrying these events and in the same breath using the death and injuries for their long sought after anti-2A agenda? Rhetorically asked.

I don’t believe we need gun regulation that infringes on the rights of citizens but rather a studied approach that addresses the cause/causes that end up in mass shootings.

 

I think there are already restrictions that infringes on rights of citizens. Given the broad definition of arms.
And I am sure there are arms that civilians can NOT own.

 

Yes. By law, under no circumstance can anyone sell or even give away a set of lawn darts.

 

I didn't know we got to pick and choose what parts of the Constitution we could dismiss. I know that it's kind of a Democrat thing to ignore any law that you don't like so I should be surprised that it wouldn't stop with the highest law of the land.

 

So are you saying that it SHOULD mean that "arms" includes every arms today?

 

And I assume that you're okay with that. Are you?

 

Absolutely he has. My point was that while SNL attack Trump, this is not the same thing as Trump attacking entire groups of people. However, he hasn't attacked entire groups of people in the way that the media and Democrats say that he has.

 

Well it's different today isn't it?

 

In my opinion, your statement is accurate, though I would rather the restrictions be via personal responsibility rather than government usurpation/impediments/bans. Any right not exercised responsibly could be prosecuted as a violation of any criminal law (I.e. Murder, manslaughter, discharging a firearm etc.).

As to the definition of "arms" I've assumed it related to what the common soldier of the day would carry. A rifle, pistol and knife. However maybe your right that it includes more than that. I assumed the rifle/pistol/knife as covered by the 2A because you do not need a license or special tax to keep or bear it.

 

Yes, technological advances, logistics and tactics all play a part in what the soldier of the day commonly carries, but the basics or commonality throughout American history would seem to be a rifle, pistol and knife. Flintlock to center fire rounds is an advancement but it is still the same process.

One day lasers may be carried.

 

Perhaps. It probably is not good if there aren't any regulations on fire arms. I'm actually pretty happy with the level of today's regulation. But, if the media can't self regulate, then perhaps there should be some regulation placed on them. They have shown themselves to be pretty harmful at inciting this race war. They don't seem to get that plastering the air waves with gun coverage just creates more gun violence so maybe they do need some regulation.