Immigrant advocate killed in crash with Salvadoran who sought sanctuary in Colorado Springs church

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    And not true.

    Kate Steinle case: Parents can't sue 'sanctuary city' for failing to tell ...

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/26/us/kate-steinle-family-cannot-sue-city/index.html

    Mar 26, 2019 - The parents of Kate Steinle, who was shot and killed in July 2015 by an undocumented immigrant, cannot sue San Francisco for refusing to tell immigration officials of the shooter's release from local custody a few months before the killing, a federal appeals court ruled Monday.
    Kate Steinle death: Garcia Zarate acquitted of homicide - CNN

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/us/kate-steinle-murder-trial-verdict/index.html

    Dec 1, 2017 - San Francisco (CNN) A jury on Thursday found an undocumented immigrant not guilty in the July 2015 death of Kate Steinle, a decision that ...

    kate steinle : NPR

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    January 5, 2018 • Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, who was found not guilty in November in the death of Kate Steinle, was sentenced Friday on a state gun violation to ...
    Kate Steinle shooter seeks to have gun conviction overturned ...

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/.../Kate-Steinle-shooter-seeks-to-have-gun-conviction-13...

    Jan 15, 2019 - The undocumented immigrant acquitted by a jury of murder in the shooting death of Kate Steinle on a San Francisco pier, in a case that ...

    Illegal immigrant found not guilty in Kate Steinle's killing wants gun ...

    https://www.foxnews.com/.../illegal-immigrant-found-not-guilty-for-kate-steinles-murde...

    Jan 16, 2019 - In July 2015, Kate Steinle, 32, was walking on San Francisco pier with her father when a bullet ricocheted off the pier's concrete floor and fatally ...

    Why Kate Steinle's parents can't sue San Francisco for negligence

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    Mar 27, 2019 - The parents of Kate Steinle — a woman shot dead in San Francisco by an illegal immigrant — cannot sue that “sanctuary city” for having quietly ...
    Kate Steinle family can't sue San Francisco, court rules - USA Today

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/.../kate-steinle.../3282366002/

    Mar 26, 2019 - Court: Kate Steinle's parents can't sue San Francisco for negligence in daughter's death. Kristin Lam, USA TODAY Published 8:12 p.m. ET ...
    Immigrant acquitted in Kate Steinle's shooting death wants gun ...

    https://www.latimes.com/local/.../la-me-ln-kate-steinle-appeal-20190116-story.html

    Jan 16, 2019 - He was charged with murder and illegal gun possession in the fatal shooting of Kate Steinle in July 2015. Steinle was shot in the back was she ...

    Kate Steinle case: Dismissal of parents' suit against San Francisco is ...

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-immigrant-sf-suit-20190325-story.html

    Mar 25, 2019 - The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit against San Francisco by the parents of Kate Steinle, who was shot to ...
     
  2. Texas Republican

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    The only way the libs will condemn an illegal killing someone is if they kill a Mooslam.

    Muslims are on top of the liberal totem pole.
     
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    Riiiiiight. According to this "logic" everyone who supports firearm ownership is sacrificing every shooting victim for their cause.
     
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    I heard that a staunch Trump supporter riding a motorcycle was hit by a white Legal US citizen accidentally and was killed while both of them were rushing to a Trump rally. Both were reportedly known to be mean and stupid by those who knew them. Nobody was charged, but it shows that legal citizens kill each other all the time.
     
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    I heard the cow jumped over the moon too. Post a link to what you heard.....no kook blogs please.
     
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    An Illegal killing someone here is FAR worse than a citizen....since it’s nearly 100% preventable. But you knew that already.
     
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    Then El Paso is far worse because it is domestic terrorism compared to an anarcho nut who went off his rocket in Dayton.
     
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    Seems more like cosmic karma to me.
     
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    Who suggested we don't examine motives? I was replying to your disturbing post about one death being worse than another based on the color of the killer and the method used. How can you justify such a position?
     
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    I am looking forward to sharia law so someone can toss Megan Rhapino from a rooftop.

    Now that would be a liberal conundrum....
     
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    No, it would not. Islamic sha'rists are conservatives.
     
  12. JakeStarkey

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    My post was spot on, and you can't refute it? Why would you even think of refuting it?

    But try it if you can.
     
  13. Steve N

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    The accident never should have occurred because the illegal never should have been here. Regarding excusing mass shootings, who's doing that? How do you stop someone from planning an attack? You live in gun country, how would you stop someone who secretly sets out to kill strangers?

    About those video games, don't dismiss it completely. My son has a neurological problem, it's quite severe, and video games get him so angry, so pissed off, so near the edge, that the wife and I are quite worried about it. I'm not saying my kid is the next mass shooter, but a kid a little than him could be. There are millions of people playing violent video games and the possibility of one or two people out of not handling the desensitizing and bullying that goes on in those games is real. If people can commit suicide over being bullied on Facebook, then anything is possible.
     
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    May things go well with your son, Steve N: that sounds very worrisome.

    That is why Red Flag laws are good ideas. They in no way hurt anyone who is not on the edge.
     
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    Maybe your right, except domestic terrorists is usually an isolated occurrence that is usually conducted by a disturbed individual.

    MS13 on the other hand is a huge problem and they continue to kill people on a regular basis.

    The majority of the democratic presidential candidates want open borders & they would welcome thousands more MS13 members into America.

    I think MS13 is a kind of domestic terrorism don’t you?

    What is going on in South side of Chicago is almost just as bad.
     
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    We have a constitutional right to guns, the illegal didn't have a right to be here. If we cons acted like liberals do with guns we'd be calling to ban cars because that's what killed the American citizen.

    What's insane is this thread has 63 posts with many different opinions along with the left trying to deflect and protect the illegal. Patriotic Americans who believe in law and order would simply share the same opinion over and over again.
     
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    No one wants 'open borders', much less "The majority of the democratic presidential candidates..."

    Think so. Prove it with specific quotes.

    Once you admit you are wrong, we can talk about MS-13.
     
  18. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have a gun, it's in a locked case that my wife has stashed away where it can't be found. I don't know where she put the key. It has a trigger lock and I don't know where she put the key. And we have no ammunition in the house. This is partially due to us not using the gun in over 5 years and partially due to the kid. What's bothersome is that after spending tens of thousands of dollars diagnosing the boy and trying to figure out what drugs and dosages work or make things worse (trust me, going through four years of that was hell) we found 1 drug that worked, Abilify. On January 1, 2015 that drug went from $23 for a three month supply to $912 for a one month supply. Who can afford that? Anyway, the kid has shown zero interest in real guns, just the ones in video games.
     
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    Sounds like some blessings there with his lack of interest in guns.

    I think the health care, pharma, and medical industries are greater threat to the average family's bottom line and health than the non-existent 'open borders.'

    We all do have to work together.

    Best of luck with your family.
     
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    Thanks. My mother-in-law has schizophrenia, that condition is hereditary and it looks like my kid has it. He also has ADHD (something I never believed in until I saw the real deal) with the added complication of the ring of fire. He's also been diagnosed with mood disorder which is a combination of depression and anxiety. He sees psychologists, but because he's over 18 those psychologists won't discuss his condition with us because of HIPAA laws unless the kid gives them permission to do so, which he won't. A few of them have taken calls from my wife from time to time (usually they won't), and she tells them what she sees the boy doing along with her fears and they never provide any feedback, they just listen like they're too afraid of being sued or something because of HIPAA. The system to protect our privacy has an unintended consequence which is not helping us.
     
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    Very interesting situation. In my way of thinking, the notion of sending those prices into orbit at the expense of patients is criminal. This is one of those instances where we should not allow personal greed to come before personal well-being. How likely are you to get your son off those games?
     
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    I do hope that this works out for all of you.

    HIPAA has some good points but . . . the lack of accountability for transparency is the biggest problem.

    We knew of a problem in a Texas public school spec ed classroom.

    A non-verbal autistic boy grew larger than his teachers, grew into puberty, and start misbehaving, touching teachers and other students.

    TEA was doing its darndest to keep it all inside the school with its very strict non-reporting regulations.

    Finally, the fifteen year-old touched a girl, and the parent filed a criminal complaint. The town police would not investigate, so the parent filed an IG complaint with the State against the police, and filed a criminal complaint with the county sheriff and DPS.

    So, yes, the professionals' hands are tied by department and state regulations the which endanger people.
     
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    Post #57 You just wrote off the Dayton ANTIFA terrorist as a "nut" having no idea, or interest in his motive. Why is that? Police haven't determined what the motive was, and the FBI just reported they haven't been able to hack the terrorists cell phone. The password's probably something simple and easy to remember. I wonder if they've tried >> Warren / Sanders 2020.
     
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    Why do democrats always need to be spoonfed information? Obviously you didn't watch your own party's debates. Warren, Kamala, Booker, Castro and others, propose decriminalizing illegal immigration. They also propose free health care for all illegals. Tim Ryan ripped his insane open border rivals, warning that their insanity might play well in the primaries, but would be disasterous in the general. Some of your fav extremist outlets, VOX & Slate, are urging (D)'s to stop talking, and keep their open borders schemes their own dirty little secret not to be sprung on voters until after the election. Get woke to your own party's platform.
     
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    This is ironic. I do think if we stop nation rape (penetration of our nation without consent) cold you will see crime rates drop. You will see wages rise. You will see taxes/the deficit fall. And you will see incidents of vehicle accidents (along with auto insurance rates) drop.
     

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