Homeowner shot a 14-year-old during burglary attempt. The 5 other teens with him were charged with m

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when it is your property where your family resides. Everyone here in the US knows they are playing with fire in a home invasion.
     
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    Actually, hundreds of Irish that were found guilty of sedition by the crown for seeking independence were shipped to Botany Bay during the days of the Rum Corps.
     
  3. Bush Lawyer

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    Fair enough. You can do that here in Australia as well.
     
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    It's United States penal code not legislation.
     
  5. Bush Lawyer

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    Bloody Irish, seditious they be you know!

    You cunning bastard! I was trying to keep it secret that we actually had a mini War of Independance here....doomed though it always was.

    :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rum_Rebellion
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    To wait until after you're dead or dying. That's pretty messed up. Aussies don't have the right to life.
     
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    Probably not because of gun laws.
     
  8. Bush Lawyer

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    Nope...you wait until it is reasonable that you ought use lethal force if that is the only option to prevent grievous bodily harm or potential death. It is not rocket science.
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

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    I guess there are no home invasions then?
     
  10. Polydectes

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    Right if someone is in your house without your permission they are there to do you harm that's as reasonable As It gets.

    If it's not reasonable in Australia you have no right to life.
     
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    They tend to be very common in places where there's a lot of gun restrictions because chances are they're not going to walk in on an armed homeowner.

    Kennesaw Georgia enacted a law that everyone that had a household had to keep a firearm and the home invasion statistics dropped by 81%.
     
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    Yeah we did it says wait until you're already dead.

    it was stupid the first time you said it it's still stupid and it won't stop being stupid no matter how many times you do say it.

    Criminals in Australia must be really polite.

    Assie criminal:"Hey mate I'm going to um kill ya, I'm going to use this iron pipe to do it"

    Assie victim "well I got a shot gun and if ya do I'm going to shoot ya"

    Assie criminal: "you wait a minute right thete mate you can't shoot me unless you have a reasonable fear."

    Assie victim: "if you lift that pipe up and come charging toward me 5 count 5 Mississippi's before I can shoot you but Imma shoot you"

    Aussie criminal" suppose I don't realize that pipe over my head and charge"

    Aussie victim: "I reckon that'll be alright"

    Aussie criminal: "same time next Tuesday?"
     
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    You watch too many movies. people don't back off when you tell them that back off that's excellent dialogue in an action movie makes for good suspense but it's not reality. If they think they're going to die they're going to do everything they can to kill you first.

    That's just common sense.
     
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    We don't use guns to deal with *******s here either if we did probably about a third of the population of the planet would be exterminated.

    We use guns to defend our lives because we can we have the right to life here.
     
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    Hey! I thought it was “Don’t Mess With Texas”, not “Don’t Annoy Illinois”.
     
  16. Bush Lawyer

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    There you go yet again. Not reading what I have said.
     
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    You do know that this wasn't actually a law that was enforceable, don't you, and no one even tried to enforce it? Even the caveats stated so - "Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony"

    It was purely a political statement, used as propaganda by pro-gunners.
     
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    Sounds about right.
     
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    No I read what you said. Hesitate and die. Laws made by the naive.
     
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    They would back off if the suggestion was backed up with a shotgun. If they don't......okay, and if there is genuine fear of GBH or death.....blast away. No shotgun? Okay....whatever else is available.
     
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    Yet it worked. Lol.
     
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    Or they would kill you because you hesitated.

    Laws in the United States don't require people to read minds.

    You watch too many movies. There isn't really going to be a thematic stand off.

    People who know nothing of combat shouldn't talk about it.
     
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    Criminals here are a little less polite.
     
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    This is actually really common and very easy to prove. If fact, all the proof is already there.
     
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