Homeowner shot a 14-year-old during burglary attempt. The 5 other teens with him were charged with m

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  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's state law.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Which happened when one of them came at him with a knife.
     
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    Some measure can be voted by plebiscite others not so much. If they are like Mizzouri legislature they will nullify the vote explaining that the voters don't know what is good for themselves..
     
  4. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Same same just about anywhere in Cook County. You must be on your toes.
     
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  6. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Read the story again.
    They ran away in their stolen Lexus. 3 miles later, they dropped the injured boy off with one other at the scene of a car accident. The boy dropped off with the injured one was arrested. The other 4 (not sure how the math adds up) ran away at high speeds until they ran out of gas. They were not asking the police for help after they dropped their buddy off. Love the way you mis-characterized these predators.
     
  7. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You didn't read the story with comprehension. They didn't leave the injured boy at the house, they drove off with him, and dropped him off at the scene of a car accident. 5 boys (one with a knife) shouldn't have come at an old man.
     
  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    5 boys, one with a knife, coming at a 75 year old man, and you don't think he was in fear of his life? That's not rocket science.
     
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    If the incorrigible little thief hadn't tried to steal the man's car, he would still be alive now too.
     
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    That man would be dead right now if he hadn't shot the kid. No question about it.
     
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    I do, and if my sons and their friends had tried to steal a second car, and then one of them threatened a 75 year old man, I would expect them to be shot.
     
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    No loss.
     
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    I do not agree with the murder charge as no one was murdered, charge the kids for what they are guilty of though
     
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    14 year old

    Probably dragged along by the rest. Who knows what he might have made of his life if he had not become another child statistic
     
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    perfectly ok with him shooting them in self defense if needed, don't try to steal someone stuff if one doesn't want to get shot... moral of the story

    the 75 year old had no intention of shooting anyone that night, the children sadly brought this on themselves

    I do not own a gun, never have, never will, BUT, I do want criminals to fear I might have a gun and they might get shot
     
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    I guess conservatives have a little more faith in people than liberals. That must be why you want to disarm and control them all so much.
     
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    Probably a career criminal.
     
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    Or he was the ring leader.

    Who knows what he might have made of his life had he not chose to become a thief and take things belonging to others. Ultimately, it was the choices made by the 14 year old that ended his life.
     
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    it's sad, but a life of crime is dangerous, not a life people should choose
     
  20. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Close....

    LOL. well... not really.
     
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  21. perdidochas

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    Since he was so easily influenced to commit felonies by his friends, more than likely it was a gang situation, and he would have become an adult death statistic, if not an actual murderer.
     
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    He made the wrong choice, his choice. You like to change the stories to fit your narratives don't you? Can you find, in the story, where he was dragged along? And he's not a child. 14 is old enough to be tried as an adult.
     
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    Maybe he'll be an inspiration for his friends and they'll turn their lives around.
     
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  24. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doubtful.

    He'll be on t-shirts, and used as a martyr for his Hood.
     
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    Yeah I never liked that law. The kids are guilty of theft and maybe intent to murder, but not murder, because as you said, there was no murder.
     
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