Fox News Poll: Most back gun restrictions after shootings, Trump ratings down

No, i'm reading what he says and seeing what he does. Directly.

 

No you won't. I guarantee you a pack of "multiple well armed assailants" is not going to invade your rural fortress. It's just not going to happen. None of us here are ever going to hear in the news how you stood off a pack of armed assailants with your assault rifle. You might as well worry about coming down with Ebola. It's a paranoid fantasy gun fetishists have.

 

True, and the court might strike it down, but I doubt it. No Supreme Court is going to go against the will of 80+% of the public. That's an excellent way to justify the Dems dreams of packing the Court.

 

We have known that the children of rupert murdock want to remake Fox into a liberal media

As for the poll I dont know any more about it than you do

Hence my general comment about Fox without mentioning the poll

 

I wonder if she lost her job?

 

Why would a law abiding citizen become a mass murderer ??

Your last sentence makes no sense.

 

Like what ??

 

We don't need more

the only reason for registration is for future confiscation

they don't have to be. After vetline it says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed not the right of the militia to keep and bear arms the right of the people. In the Supreme Court affirmed that it's an individual right.

you don't do that through gun control. Gun control is not murder control.

Hey national registry exists for the sole purpose of later confiscation. proponents of the 2nd Amendment will resist that with everything they have.

Background checks will never happen on person-to-person sales.

There is no motivation for them to do a background check.

 

I did not say they weren't reputable. They are honest about the methodology I mentioned. Those who are pursuing success or raising a family are underrepresented. Incoming calls from numbers not in your contacts are usually scams or robo calls. Do you answer unidentified calls?

 

Polling organizations know this (and a bunch of other issues) and adjust their sampling accordingly. Again, polling isn't a new science. Phones aren't new technology. They know how to deal with these issues.

 

Lots of reasons. You can't expect a mass shooter will have a criminal record. Often they have no criminal record at all, just a bunch of red flags people around them noticed before the person finally snapped.

Laws are necessary evils. They unfairly affect law-abiding people. That's true of every law, not just gun control legislation.

 

Why are you worried about stuff that's not going to happen? Here, I'll set your mind at ease: you know how you're going to die? Just like the vast, vast majority of the population: heart attack, cancer, or stroke. You'd be better off melting down your precious guns and using them as weights to get in shape.

 

Please Cubed, name a single gun grabbing liberal leader who has ever endorsed children learning how to handle a firearm in a class. Can't wait.

 

Yeah, Fox isn't as biased as most think. They did publish a poll but the Headline was not what the OP originally titled the article. His said 76% of the population want a gun ban or something to that effect. That was a bald face lie. I noticed the thread title was changed by a MOD because it was after the 15 minutes allowed for editing before it was brought to the OP's attention. Fox reported honest polling. The OP cherry picked what dems might want, not what all Americans want.

 

not true, the left supports the 2nd, we just do not support the easy access to machine guns and assault rifles

both the left and right agree on machine guns, there is disagreement on assult rifles

 

And because of these LPS laws nothing can be done about the real problem which is the mentally unstable human being. Taking guns away doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. Committing an individual to a mandatory psychiatric examination with mandatory confinement and treatment does. Once again the left blames the gun and ignores the real problem.

 

It has happened. There are many more home invasions than mass shootings in the US.

 

yes and that will create it's own problems.... you think the government wont abuse that law, and put people away for whatever reason they want

look at people that claim the insanity defense and the state says sane, and defense says insane, then when found not guilty the state says insane so they can lock them up....

course we could start locking anyone up that makes a death threat - bet that would stop that pretty quick... but just making it a crime to do so would too

 

Semiautomatic firearms are legal. They were once banned for 10 years and there was no change in any trend lines from before and after.

 

it would take a long time to get them out of society, but make it a felony to own one, you lose the right to bear arms if caught with one.. bet people would turn them in

but I agree, could take a long time to get them all off the street - but how many machine gun mass murders you see today

 

So, make felons out of ordinarily honest and law abiding citizens. Stalin would be proud.

 

if it was a felony to own a assault rifle, they woudl be criminals if they did not turn them in

same as if they owned a bomb that could blow up a city block - but I suppose you think they should be able to own those too - put land mines in their yard, ect...

reasonable limits are ok

 

You're right about that. However, if a country has a lot of mentally ill suicidally depressed people (like this country does), does it really make sense for that country to be awash in guns? Even if we're ignoring the root causes (which we are), I still would prefer crazy people have as little access to assault weapons as possible, and one of the ways to do that is by banning them. What's the harm?

The only objections I'm hearing are fantastically improbable scenarios about people needing to defend themselves from vicious packs of MS-13 gang members wearing the latest body armor.

I don't blame the weapon. But just because a weapon is blameless doesn't mean that weapons shouldn't be restricted.

 

That’s the argument used to justify the LPS laws. We now have ~ 40,000 mental health beds in the US. Prior to LPS in the 70’s we had 500,000 with half the population. There are more mentally ill people in prison than in hospital. What could go wrong ???

The process gets people treatment which they need.

 

it will also mean sane people are forced to stay in mental hospitals cause there is nothing to charge them with... it would be abused

I agree, mental health wards in prisons make no sense as if they are mentally ill, they should of not been found guilty

let's be honest, mental health wards in prisons are just so they can drug prisoners that are not complaint, makes them easier to control