Fox News Poll: Most back gun restrictions after shootings, Trump ratings down

Semiautomatic firearms are not machine guns. What they do is automatically load a fresh shell into the chamber after each shot initiated by a separate trigger pull.

 

They are not being sent to a prison. They are being evaluated and committed to mental treatment facility or mandatory out patient treatment.

 

Any law abiding citizen can legally own any pre 1984 machine gun they can pay for. They are legal in my state and many others. It is only a matter of most setting up a firearms trust (most common way for most) filling out NFA paperwork paying $200.00 Federal tax and wait about 8-9 months.

 

They are being evaluated by mental health professionals. And if in patient treatment is recommended they will be confined in a mental health hospital. We should have 1,000,000 mental health beds in the US today - we have 40,000.

 

Here is the preface to the book "The Insanity Offense - How America's Failure to Treat the Seriously Mentally Ill Endangers Its Citizens" by E. Fuller Torrey published in 2012. Mr. Torrey is a research psychiatrist specializing in schizophrenia and manic-depressive illness. I recommend reading the book available at the library most likely in ebook format.

Torrey, E. Fuller. The Insanity Offense: How America's Failure to Treat the Seriously Mentally Ill Endangers Its Citizens . W. W. Norton & Company. Kindle Edition.

 

The technology did not change, the world around it did. Do you know the percentage of calls that are answered VS ignored/rejected? How does that compare to 20 years ago? These results only reflect those whose time is not worth anything. Maybe their opinions aren't worth anything either?

 

I do not disagree with you, the thing that scares me is the abuse that comes with such a law

if we are so sure it will never be abused

let's add to the law that anyone falsely committed will be paid by the state 1 million dollars for every month confined

if the law is never abuse it wont cost the state a dime

 

Translation: I can't back up my statement.

In your last statement.

Exactly.

So no dem leadership just as I said. Thanks for admitting it.

And if I missed one of your posts Cubed I'll remedy it. You've proven time and time again its not a problem to defeat your arguments.

 

Ok, please point out where I said anything about any Dem (or Dem leaders) in this post

 

We have been through all that and learned from it. Plus the medications available today are much better than 50 years ago.

Let’s try to help the mentally ill and save their victims.

 

Quote me where I said it was in that post Cubed. Go ahead. Since you ran from the rest of the post you can start there.

 

Well it was the post you replied to. Is there some other phantom post your speaking of?

 

To test whether that's a valid complaint, all you have to do is look at whether past polling has been successful or not. In 2016, Fox had Clinton up by 4, and she ended up winning by 2, so that was pretty accurate, and in 2018, before the midterms, Fox had Democrats with a 7 point lead, and Democrats ended up beating the GOP by 7 points. That's right on the nose. If your complaint was valid, they wouldn't be getting those kind of accurate results.

 

Not necessity, cars are registered...
Are they at risk for confiscation?
What about homes?
Even the watch I am wearing at the moment is registered.

People resist change, it’s what they do.
If laws are passed there is very little an extreme minority of the fringe right will be able to do.

I will happily register my handguns, two rifles, and shotgun.

If they don’t and a crime is committed with that weapon then their insurance would be responsible as well as the seller civilly. Perhaps criminally. It would begin happening immediately if we went that route.

 

Yes. They get empounded all the time.

there is no federal watch registration.

They won't register their guns and since they own most of them most won't be registered.

The government has no right to ask that of us.

The only reason you would do that is so they can eventually confiscate them.

You'll have to change the bill of rights a bit to make that the case.

You'll have to find some corrupt supreme Court justices for that to fly.

 

There is only one party advocating embarking on the road to confiscation of anything.

 

For nonpayment, yes.
Still registered

The government absolutely has that right as mandated by the will of the people.

They can certainly break federal or state law and face the repercussions of such action

Speculative opinion

I disagree

We have plenty of those.

But it doesn’t matter what the SCOTUS says if enough people demand action.

 

Link to a website for the federal watch registration.

No it doesn't, the will of the people or the tyranny of the majority is exactly what the Constitution was designed to protect against.

It's just common sense. If you were going to commit a crime with a fire arm you'd make sure to do it with one that isn't registered. So it wouldn't be about preventing crime. It's just to punish law abiding gun owners or to confiscate them. The reason you listed was to make criminals of gun owners.

You aren't entitled to damages i.e. civil restitution from someone who didn't cause damages.

This is just an effort to harass gun owners.

So there is no Constitution just mob rule?

 

Yes, the US is a Constitutional Republic. The only way around the Constitution is to amend it. There is a process for that. The left continually attempts to get around the Constitution claiming judicial activism, executive action, and bureaucratic regulation.

Here is another example using a different tactic:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/senators-file-an-enemy-of-the-court-brief-11565911608

 

SCOTUS cannot overrule a constitutional amendment.

It absolutely works that way

 

oooh.....right on cue with your boogeymen scare tactics. More liberals own guns than you think. Count me among them.

This falsehood is what lead to righties to think they would win a civil war against liberals.

 

They love the NRA's money more.

 

I never said there was, I said they are still registered. Does it make sense that we have background checks if person A buys a weapon but then can immediately turn around and sell it to person B without a background check?

It absolutely have the duty to protect its citizens.

Non-registered gun would be subject to legal penalties plus destruction of said weapon. It wouldn’t be an issue for long.

The program isn’t to punish law abiding gun owners.

Their negligence allowed the damages to occur, so yes, they are.

No attempt to harass anyone following the law

”We, the people of the United States”, there is a constitution but we are allowed to amend it as we see fit.

You are trying to turn this into so partisan attack on gun owners, it isn’t.
I am a gun owner, multiples actually and I support it. I am really good friends with several ffl dealers who also support expanded background checks but are mixed on registration.

We have a gun violence issue in this country and it is an attempt to address it.