Latest FOX poll

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  1. CourtJester

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    So you only cite Fox News when you think they agree with your position.
     
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    Hmm... sorry but NO. Please don't cry LOL :icon_jawdrop::tears:

    The latest Zogby poll:

    51% of likely voters approve of Trump's job as president, while 47% disapprove

    Trump's support with his base has increased drastically;

    Nearly half of Hispanics approve of Trump (49% approve/51% disapprove)

    Trump is winning with urban voters and has record support with African Americans (28% approve/70% disapprove).

    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/896...lly-nearly-half-of-hispanics-approve-of-trump

    PS I wonder why Fake news media is silent on this poll?
     
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    Sweet!!! You’re now on record stating Fox News is fake news.

    Wanted to see this data this. They don’t list how they polled. Zogby uses 2 methods phone and internet polling. Typically they use the Internet polling for presidential approval ratings in their site. I’m guessing for cost reduction. This poll did quite disclose that info or I didn’t see it.

    Their internet polling requires a registration to their site and invite to respond to poll. This is not random sampling.
     
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    The hostile, toxic environment (D)'s created renders polls worthless IMO. Doxxing, stalking, assaulting ... who needs that sh!t?
     
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    No, he's not losing his base... this particular poll is not some crazy outlier, although it is one of the worst Trump results on Fox... Still has 43% approval here, which is exactly where RCP has their average - 43.3

    As always, National polls don't mean anything... Where do the people in Michigan, Wisconsin,and Pennsylvania stand??

    How about Arizona? That's a state that will be very close in 2020... I suspect Georgia will as well...
     
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    I go by RCP averages which Fox is included.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    Trump has average between 42-44% approval since February 2018, rarely going above or below those figures. His Disapproval has been between 52-54% over that same time period. Nothing he does or doesn't do seems to effect those numbers. Trump is a very polarizing figure. He could bring world peace or plunge us into another great depression, his numbers would still remain steadily in that range.

    Never has a president had such constant numbers. Obama ranged, lowest to highest from 38-69, G.W. Bush from 25-90, Bill Clinton 37-73, G.H.W. Bush 29-89 and on back. Their approval/disapproval moved depending on what was going on in the world, their stances on issues, the economy, etc. Not Trump. He has had a low of 37 and a high of 45.

    I think Trump's approval numbers aren't based on what he does or doesn't, his policies or stances on issues or even tied to world events. They're tied to his brash persona. His character, his personality, to him personally.
     
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    Well put, to point out his constant range, which is fascinating. He's done things WAY worse than some of those other guys and cannot go below 37.... How can that be? How can Trump's low be 37 when Poppy Bush hit a 29 at some point?

    When this bizarro world 4 years is written in the history books, that max low of 37 will be one of the hardest to explain. I certainly cannot.
     
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    Well, it’s right wing media. And if they can’t massage the number to support their fan’s position, nobody can! ( except Rasmussen, of course).
     
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    I will not give up my rights due to the emptying of the asylums which set the crazies loose on the streets.
     
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    I don’t think Trump will lose his base.

    But his base isn’t 43% of the population. It’s about 25%. The rest are traditional Republicans, people who wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton,and people who bought the BS.

    Trump’s core base are the same people who were still supporting George W Bush in 2007, and who were still identifying as tea partiers long after the DC money had dried up and the rallies had stopped.

    They’re the ones who waved their Pom poms for Sarah Palin.

    Trump won’t lose any of those people. But they can’t elect a President.
     
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    I think the effect of polarization has much to do with it. Comparing Trump and Obama, Republicans have ranged from a low of 79% to a high of 90% with Trump, Democrats ranged from a low of 72% to a high of 95%. Again we see Trump range of 11 points vs Obama's range of 23 points. It seems the more the Democrats go after Trump, the higher his approval rating among Republicans. A circle your wagon's effect.

    When you have an average of 85% of your party approving or supporting you, you aren't gong to fall far below 40%. G.H.W. Bush support or approval dropped to 57% among Republicans, that explains his 29% overall approval rating. One must remember when poppy Bush was president as you so aptly named him. We weren't in this era of hyper, ultra partisanship or polarization. Poppy Bush ranged from a low of 9% to a high of 82% approval among Democrats. Obama from a low of 6% to a high of 41% among Republicans, Trump from a low of 4% to a high of 12% among Democrats.

    I think the GOP support for Trump rest with those numbers. Republicans are convinced the Democrats never gave Trump a chance, that they set out to destroy him since the day after the election. Some Democrats say the same thing about the Republicans and Obama, but the 41% of Republicans approving of Obama shows at least they were willing to give him a chance. That didn't last long, but it was there for Obama's first 100 days. The honeymoon period so to speak. There was no such thing with Trump.

    The whole Trump presidency has been one huge polarized affair, love him or hate him affair. Really few in-between which aren't in either the pro or anti Trump camps. It isn't what Trump does or doesn't do, it isn't his policies that drive his approval or disapproval numbers. It's Trump himself, his personality, his in your face persona. Trump isn't going to change, neither are those who support or oppose him. We've become way too polarized.
     
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    LOL! Of course Fox is Fake News.

    Fox News = MSM = Fake News.

    The only thing that is usually not fake on Fox are some of its opinion shows. They are often Fair and Balanced. :)
     
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    Trump continues to not get new voters while shedding some. He can't win with only 42 to 43% of the voters, and the Dems won't make the same third party mistakes this time as they did in 2016.
     
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    Trumps' effective opposition to our entrenched corrupt bipartisan ruling political class is the cause of all the desperate reactionary resistance to his reform program.
     
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    No, it is nothing of the sort, Dydd. Trump is a corporatist always, not a populist reformer.
     
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    One would think that after 2016 the political establishment would stop trying to sell Fake Polls. When will they ever learn?
     
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    The polls had Clinton beating Trump.

    She did by almost three million votes.

    14 MILLION MORE VOTED AGAINST TRUMP than for him.

    His win was fluke as next year will prove.
     
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    If that's the case then trump won't have a prayer in 2020 if we can just get a decent alternative (the bar has never been lower).
     
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    It’s cute that there are people who put any credence to polls like this.
     
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    Because the polling methodology is unclear and the results are suspect?
     
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    What an absurd claim!
     
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    Fox opinion shows are "fair and balanced?" ROFL
     
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    The hard Left is very well represented on many Fox opinion shows.

    "I think this is big trouble for democracy, especially the hostile level of discourse in social media. And that it's something the media need to address collectively after the election.

    But here's one of several fascinating smaller findings of the study that are kind of stunning -- even if they seem obvious and ho-hum to some of my more jaded, postmodern, aren't-we-cleverly-ironic colleagues:

    ON MSNBC, the ratio of negative to positive stories on GOP candidate Mitt Romney was 71 to 3.

    That's not a news channel. That's a propaganda machine, and owner Comcast should probably change Phil Griffin's title from president to high minister of information, or something equally befitting the work of a party propaganist hack in a totalitarian regime. You wonder how mainstream news organizations allow their reporters and correspondents to appear in such a cauldron of bias."
    BALTIMORE SUN, PEW, "MSNBC really is more partisan than Fox, according to Pew study, By David Zurawik, 11/2/2002.
    https://www.baltimoresun.com/entert...is-more-partisan-than-fox-20121102-story.html
     
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    I've always said, 2020 boils down to whom the Democrats nominate. Nominate a candidate attractive to independents, they win in a landslide. Nominate one who isn't, ala Hillary Clinton, another 2016 is a possibility.
     
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