Should the government be the only ones with guns?

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The police can use full auto weapons like SMGs and vehicle mounted machine guns, both of which are restricted to 'civilians'. So the laws already empower LE beyond the citizenry. Is that not good enough?
     
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    A government monopoly on firepower is a recipe for the worst kind of tragedy.
     
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    I don't know where you're going with this, but I'll break it down for you; one is pre ownership, the other post ownership. I stand by the fact there is no legitimate purpose for assault style weapons for the average consumer. Period.
     
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    Would an AR-15 with a fixed magazine count as an assault weapon?
     
  5. Lucifer

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    Says who?
     
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    The govt. already has the advantage of more firepower and has for over one hundred years.
     
  7. Robert E Allen

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    It is the most fleshed out, it means exactly what is says.
    Yes it's written in stone, yes it is sacrosanct.
    Without it the other ammendments are feckless.


    Hell no the government shouldn't be the only one with guns.

    The government is largely supposed to be without power.
     
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    Abortion is not health care.
     
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    Yes they could and did.
     
  10. Lucifer

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    You're obviously not a woman nor a doctor.
     
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    PanMonarchist Well-Known Member

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    Shall we go down the list?
    Reign of Terror-France
    Great Terror-Soviet Union
    Holodomor-Soviet Union
    Ba'athism-Iraq and Syria
    The Killing Fields-Cambodia
    Modern-Day Inquisition-Iran
    State Sponsored Terror and Genocide-Territories under the Control of ISIS
    The Repression in South Tirol-Italy
    Derg-Ethiopia

    If you want more examples of governments wiping out their unarmed citizenry, please left me know.
     
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    Obviously that is an article of faith for you.
     
  13. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just trying to figure out:

    -your metric for what 'assault style weapons' are
    -your reasoning for restrictions based on that metric
     
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    But I can still shoot back if someone tries to deprive me of my rights illegitimately. I may not survive, but at least I can try to do something.


    I refuse to go like a lamb to the slaughter.
     
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    LOL....and yet, we have an up and coming dictator in the White House.
     
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    Straw man. Address the list.
     
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    Which will swiftly be struck down by the courts. So will you attempts to ban entire classes of firearms.
     
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    This is the thing about gun advocates, they bury themselves in minutiae.

    Is the AR-15 a hunting weapon? No, unless you consider hunting humans part of the 2nd amendment protections.
     
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    Its a hog rifle.

    I expect research to be done before an assumption is made.
     
  20. Lucifer

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    So what you are saying is that YOUR fear of the government is greater than your fear of being killed by someone with a weapon designed for use in combat. Yeah, no greater Straw Man than that.
     
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    LOL, and you need a 30 round clip to shoot "hogs"? Maybe hunting isn't for you.
     
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    Then we really have nothing to discuss, right?
     
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    If you stop posting about banning entire classes of firearms, I’ll stop pointing out that you can’t. Deal?
     
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    You asked a question, and I gave you an answer. Now you are trying to deflect and I'm not going for it. The list I posted had numerous examples of governments run a muck and you are pretending it doesn't exist and tried to make it about 'muh Trump'.
     
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    I realize there isn't anything I can say to folks who are deeply entrenched into this gun mythos. I know because I used to be one. It's not until it affects you personally that it might make you question your beliefs.
     

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