Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

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  1. rahl

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    You’ll need an amendment repealing the 2nd in order to take them. Good luck.
     
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    So what if I am, are you blondeaphobic?
     
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    You can keep saying that for as long as you want but the fact that it is literally illegal to do what you are suggesting remains the same. The 2nd Amendment is both Constitutional Law and the people's way of ensuring that the government cannot just disregard it whenever they feel like it seeing how the populace is armed.

    What you are advocating is exactly the reason why the 2nd Amendment exists in the first place. In layman's terms our Forefathers created a law that armed the populace to ensure that the federal government couldn't disarm the populace...
     
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    Nowhere does the legal authority to restrict or otherwise regulate firearms appear in the united states constitution or the amendments.
     
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    There is no annihilation when these weapons are used in the same setting as civilians are able to do.
    That soldiers also can go full automatic, doesn't mean that is the only way they use it.
    You do not even address that or argue anything.
     
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    The weapons that the soldiers use got semi auto as well,... and not just for the show of it. It may not be the exact same weapon, the civilians still are able to use a weapon just like soldiers are being trained to do as if they are at war.
     
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    Only shows that there is a limit to what civilians can have, while it is well within the constitution. Might as well put it down one more notch.

    If you put that so called American "refrain" to how it goes down in Europe... than it does show a massive difference.

    Are you making an argument that it's better for the U.S. gun makers to keep on selling this for the sake of jobs at the expense of massacres?
    Bravo.

    It's not my responsibility when you drag in other weapons.

    Point still stands firm that soldiers world wide are trained to use that weapon on semi for times of war. A setting also available for civilians in the US.
     
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    Yes.... "perception" of society has changed, when people look at the facts. lol
     
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    So
    My point stands that these weapons are used by armies around the world. That there is a difference between full and semi, is known. Soldiers still use semi often enough... in warfare. And so you have to do better than to argue why a civilian must be able to have a weapon meant for war.
     
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    Of course military rifles have semi auto but the civilian version doesn't have the auto options. We can play army with several rifles on the market today if that is what you want it for but it's still make believe.
     
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    Clearly some people have no problem with government finding more ways to take more control over law abiding citizens.
     
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    There is something wrong that civilians have access to use massive assault weapons in the same way a trained soldier can. And wrong in the sense that a bunch of terrorists use it for their warfare again and again. I dunno how you can support that.
     
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    That is not so, and you know it.
     
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    Civilians do not weapons with massive fire power.

    If they want to kill people, make them use hammers and knives.
     
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    How did the Israelis handle it?
     
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    I fail to see how your argument is relevant to the US.
     
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    You will have to show us the Israeli model could work here.
     
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    Completely refuted.
    Because you have no leg to stand on. The 2 rifles are in no way similar, other than appearance.
     
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    Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

    He will finally get to own his own gun.
     
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    Wow.. Who knew.. These days Donald Trump jr is advising his father on gun control.
     
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    You only focus on the part that soldiers have a weapon that can function differently than a weapon of civilians.
    It's still not deniable that civilians have access in a weapon that functions the same way that soldiers are using.
    And them US civilians do use it to rage their war against minorities etc.
     
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    And yet the ability of a firearm to be utilized in a fully-automatic fashion is the only aspect that truly matters, as it is the only feature that is actually present in military firearms that separate them from civilian rifles on the private market. The reason for that is not due to safety, but rather due to taxation.
     
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    I think it's where it says.... "shall not be infringed".
     
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    Except for the fact that nuclear devices have no similarity to firearms that makes them comparable to one another in a serious and legitimate discussion.

    Is the united states part of the nation of Europe?

    It is being stated that there are too many of such firearms in private circulation for them to qualify as dangerous and unusual, or be considered anything other than in common use for legitimate purposes.

    It is, however, the responsibility on the part of yourself to present a coherent argument.

    None of which matters, as the law does not concern itself with firearms having a semi-automatic function. It is only the fully-automatic feature that is of any importance, and that is only because such firearms are subject to a two hundred dollar federal tax when they are transferred to a legal owner, thus making it a matter of revenue generation. The federal government is not concerned about semi-automatic firearms, simply because there is no money to be made on the matter.
     

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