Electronic Harassment is Real

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  1. yiostheoy

    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    Use your iggy function or the call blocking feature on your I-phone.
     
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    I answer all marketing calls in Spanish that way the Indians in India can't understand me since Spanish is not a variation of Punjab.
     
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    Did you run out of meds?
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sometimes Im stricken by deafness" hullo, hullo,..I can't hear you.. hullo, hullo"
    The caller raises his voice so I can hear him..to no avail.
     
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    Best response I ever encountered was to ask the caller which credit card they intend to use today, Visa, Amex or MC? You charge $50/minute to answer calls like this so which card will the caller be using to pay you for your time?
     
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  6. James7

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    To identify the source you need hi-tech equipment which even the police don't have. And the equipment has to be actively running and recording data for many hours at a time to be of any use.
     
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    First...Is there a reason for a Government to spend the time, money, and resources required to enact this attack on you in particular?
    Second...do any neighbors or associates note or deal with anything similar?
    Third...does this only happen at your residence or also when you are elsewhere?

    The answers to these questions should indicate your mental stability.
     
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    If you worry about electronic harassment then that seems like a case of running out of med's.

    Here at PF there is the iggy button.

    And in real life there is the call blocking feature.

    A motorcycle gang leader said he was going to kill me and started harassing me on the phone. I simply used call-blocking to dispense with him.

    I also dug out my 12 gauge shotgun, 50 shell bandoleer, and bullet proof plate carrier vest and put them all into my car.

    Problem solved.
     
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    That's a good trick too but even better if you do it in gringo-Spanish.

    "Ola! Ola?

    Que esta su?

    Hablas Espaniol?

    Por favor ?!"
     
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    Update: Situation still ongoing.

    I thought it worth repeating the following story even thought it happened a short time ago now.

    Having complained to a number of different parties already about electronic harassment, I decided to contact the local council. They suggested I have one of their sound/noise recorders installed. I've tried this one before at a previous residence I lived at with little success as obviously most of the harassment is radio. However I decided to give it another go, as I thought 'What have I got to lose?'

    The sound recorder was delivered and installed and it looked like quite a complex digital device contained within a steel box with a padlock on the front. It also had an external remote control with which you could turn the recorder on and off, as well as an external mic.

    A few days passed attempting to record tapping sounds I thought I could hear coming through a shared wall when the TV was on, a situation which had been ongoing for a number of months, when one evening, just as I was retiring for the night, there were some really strange sounds. It was clearly audible and well within the range of human hearing and sounded like a randomly changing electronic tone. It was the first time I had every heard such sounds and also the last. I quickly hit the record button and after several minutes the sounds stopped and I turned the recorder off. I was happy I had managed to record at least something unusual on the device.

    Some days later the device was picked up by a council employee and taken away, presumably for analysis. However some weeks passed and I wasn't getting any reply from the council so I decided to phone them. I asked if they had picked up anything unusual on the recorder and they replied that the device had malfunctioned and they had lost all the data. I couldn't really believe what I was hearing and suggested we try again with the same recorder. However their reply to that was that the device itself had broken and was no longer available and that was the only one they had.

    I wasn't really sure what to make of the whole thing. It seemed worse than just pure bad luck. Completely weird.
     
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    Can you make your own monitoring box?
     
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    I wish I was clever enough to do stuff like that.

    Obviously though, I have some equipment I've purchased:

    A digital sound recorder: with which I managed to record some of the suspicious tapping sounds coming through a shared wall. I replayed this recording to a member of the police but they still managed to label me as delusional. Also on one occasion recorded acoustic sound produced by the skull in the microwave auditory effect in the moments just after having fallen asleep. This recording was also played to the police.

    A trifield meter: which can measure electric fields, emf and radio/microwave. Never had much success with this.

    An electrosmog meter: which can measure up to 8GHz frequencies. Only thing I have ever picked up with this were regular significant short spikes during a power cut. But then this could have been someone's cordless phone sending out query signals.

    A sound meter: I got hold of this in the hope it may be able to detect infrasound. Not certain they've ever used infrasound against me but it can produce nausea and visual disturbances.
     
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    The problem with trying to get LE's assistance is that it likely is outside their purvue of enforcement, depending on the harrassers methodology. If they're using technological means, for example, LE likely doesnt have the tools to 'prove' who is committing the crime.

    If its technological, maybe look into building a teslacoil. My buddy built one in high school, and after almost killing himself by electricution from it (be careful!) he managed to shut down his neighbors phones, TV and any other electronic device every time he turned it on due to its massive EM output. He built it mostly out of garbage (coat hangers, beer bottle-aluminum foil capacitors, pvc pipe and hair-thin copper wire coil he wound himself), so I'd imagine you could build one too with proper instruction (I'd check youtube).

    Theres likely other means to counter electronic harassment as well. Maybe its time for a more self-sufficient, proactive approach.
     
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    I'm calling BS on this one, a DAR cannot record such an effect, even if is possible, because if it actually happened it would be internal to the person hearing it, it is not a sound produced by audio waves, therefore it cannot be recorded by the microphone of a DAR or heard by another person.
     
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    Don't forget the science isn't always as straight forward as you think.

    According to many authoratative descriptions of the effect, the human skull produces sound as the result of sudden thermal expansion. If a digital recorder is pressed hard to the side of the head, which was the case, sound can therefore be recorded.
     
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    Are you serious?

    What you're suggesting could count as electronic harassment itself.
     
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    I take it you have neighbors close by...

    Thats does complicate it. The tesla-coil was just an example. Perhaps a smaller one that only effects your property, or instead EM sheilding your home. Or both.
     
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    Nope, if a signal was that powerful the receivers head would be cooked and the person dead.

    I have worked in communications all my life and am well versed in microwave theory.
     
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    Here's the Wiki page on the Microwave Auditory Effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
     
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    I use temporary, removable shielding at night.

    I'm not sure how effective the painted on EM shielding would be as it seems the frequency they're using is somewhat less than microwave. Apparently the precursors of microwave ovens used shortwave radio for heating, so they could be using shortwave which is more penetrative of shielding.
     
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    The page seems sufficiently sourced and referenced for me.
     
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    How many years of microwave system design and maintenance do you have?

    Wiki is a well known source of BS.
     
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    Shortwave 1700KHz to 30MHz is not capable of cellular heating without getting into Gigawatt levels, the only applications for SW frequencies are induction furnace's.

    Microwave ovens operate at 2.4GHz with power levels of 400 to 1200 watts.
     

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