Australia to send warship and Defence Force personnel to Middle East to support US

Australian navy is a joke. We took out their biggest war ship with a small armed gun boat in WW II.

 

And the US, Canada, the UK and others still agree with those traditional. if not 'liberal', values. An example. https://www.explorersfoundation.org/archive/anglosphere_primer.pdf

 

It was ratified in Germany, also in France, China, UK, Russia

 

Hassan Rouhani is a Muslim and only Muslims can lead Iran. There's not much diversity of opinions and that's a clear disadvantage.

Plus many in the west are aware of this. https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

 

So what?

 

Your orange goon wants sanction all companies trading with Iran and with that dictate into other democratic nations decissions.

 

But isn't that what we do?

Actually what I meant was what countries need out protection? Oh that's right, Britain. Oh, and I forgot about the false flag attacks on the tankers. What next?

 

Would India, Australia, etc. send warships
without the umbrella.
That is the politik Moi wishes.

Let the French handle a hot spot.
And let the Germans handle the next one.
Barring some cultural similarity like the
Africans speaking French or German as India speaks English


Will we witness one.
Just one without umbrella military support?
At the cost of the tax payer.
Not the German taxpayer nor the French tax payer.


Type slowly for Moil, Please.
Slower for s

 

No one is preventing these democracies from making their own decisions, but with the understanding that they will live with the consequences.

Keep in mind that all major wars and insane ideologies (Fascism, Communism, Nazism, Socialism, the EU) began in Europe and their history is based on war and bad decisions, going back centuries. In fact you boasted recently that Germany alone was responsible for 60 million deaths.

Can you understand how Europe cannot be taken all that seriously, except in a negative sense?

 

Says someone from w country that started the iraq war, vietnam war. Tell me, from all your nations history, how many years was it not in war?

As for the EU, i love that you hate it. That shows that it works. Sucks to have a 550 million people market not taking your **** and forcing tariffs and sanctions on you? Would be better you could bully each nation individual into submission, right?

 

Meh! There is always Timor

 

Australia.
Wind, Solar
Energy independent from imported energy ala coal
as well as the need to sell coal compared to selling
Solar and Wind products can be so much more profitable
If Elon Musk and Australia would just apply themselves.

 

Okay. How about this. If a tanker heading our way with oil we paid for, gets intercepted.....sure......our Navy goes there.

 

In a narrow sense, what you say makes sense. In the larger, more accurate sense, it glosses over the fact that Australia is basically a junior partner or vassal of America and its forces. You basically, and only with slight exaggeration, go where you are told.

 

No. We do NOT go where we are TOLD....ever. We have never been TOLD.

 

Its sad that australia acts like submissive vasall.

 

You actually always do as ordered from usa. I dont blame yoh, Germany acted like a vasall of usa until the 90th. Only then we gradually broke free. I hope Australia gets freedom in the future as well.

 

Rubbish. Australia is ASKED by the USA....never TOLD. Sort of an Archilles/Agamemnon relationship.

 

If that makes you feel better, alright. But when push comes to shove, Australia is the country that is best shoved around. In this case, to act as "cannon fodder" in case a war does break out. Your ship will be sailing where America is reluctant to have its own vessels sail!

p.s.
Equally important to Trump and his "business mentality", you get to pay for what someone else has decided is the course and agenda to follow.

 

"Best shoved around?" Got any evidence to support that?

 

Proof of the pudding is in the pie! What does Australia, and its people, have to do with projects all the way in the Middle East for their forces to be recruited by America, and to serve under American leadership, in all the various wars they have marched in America's footsteps? Wherever America has gone, so have the Aussies basically.

 

I am very vocal in my catch cry...'Arabia is for Arabs' and the West has no place there. Now, I know Iran is not in Arabia so do get off on that. My catch cry is still relevant. I am also against the existence of the State of Israel where it geographically sits. I want it moved to Tasmania.

We do have a 'Treaty' called ANZUS. I am taking on your allegatioin that Australia is best shoved around and offered up as cannon fodder. Let's see your evidence in support of that.

 

You mean evidence of the US physically shoving "Australia" as opposed to the metaphor for Australia being a vassal that does whatever it is being told? Australia didn't come up with the idea for this or any of the other projects it is involved with at America's "request", "behest" (or whatever term you prefer). Nor is Australia even an issue in any of these things.

As for being "cannon fodder", that was a metaphor for the fact that if there are warships and vessels to be taken out, the most vulnerable will be the ones like yours.

 

Ah...so now it was all metaphoric. Even that is wrong. The USA has never been stupid enough to TELL us anything. They ask, and we have, as is expected out of ANZUS, agreed. We are an ally of the USA as much as it is an ally of Australia.

Let's see your evidence that our assets are the 'most vulnberable.'

 

Their armed forces have real combat experience. Unlike yours with barely 2-3 functioning jets and disabled subs. It looks like their navy ships are functional too, unlike yours again.
Don’t be jealous.