Mexico border wall: Trump orders aides to seize private land and disregard environmental rules

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, that's why we have millions of illegal aliens inside the borders, and hundreds of thousands of them committing crimes inside our borders.

    Democrats: we're trying to stop them, please ignore our sanctuary cities.
     
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    A wall is appropriate for high density crossing points such as San Diego and there is a wall there.
     
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    Not Democratic Party vs Republican Party issue. We do need better border security and we needed it some time ago.

    Neither party Shen they held the Oval Office and Congress beefed up security.

    To claim that the Democrats alone are responsible for illegal aliens is nothing more than homogenized partisan political diarrhea.

    I has not seen any hard core proof that illegals caused more crimes than
    Natural born Americans or legal immigrants. I hear and se that claimed butvthat is it.
     
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    Its refreshing to see dems take a sudden interest in limiting government overreach. These landowners you are worried about getting killed by Trump the tyrant, are the same ones your party is working to disarm, right? Wouldn't that give a tyrannical government an unfair advantage? What about letting government control your healthcare?

    Can it be that you are starting to realize that creating a big, powerful government is a mistake?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Ignore reality, here we spent some money, that's good enough"

    "Now ignore that we want to disband ICE, form sanctuary cities, have our debates in Spanish, and 100% fund the ones in the country".

    You knock off your BS.

    I can't believe some people are actually stupid enough to pretend Democrats want to protect the borders.
     
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    The basic problem is that Trump's wall is nothing but a campaign promise. He knows that it is mostly useless but he does not care. He knows that Mexico would never pay for it but he still told that lie at rally after rally.
     
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    And now Trump is doing that.

    Which party is screaming about it and trying to stop it?

    Oh yeah.

    Democrats.
     
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    Useless, except for the part where it stopped 90%+ of illegal entries where we built walls in the past.

    Other than that, sure.
     
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    I believe the Feds have an easement all along the border which the land-owners were made aware of when they purchased their properties.
     
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    Bingo.

    The only debate is how "thick" the border is.
     
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    I do not know why you are accusing me of BS. I never said to disband ICE that was the Four Freshman "Democratic " Toddlers and some guy from Minisota whonwants to redefine ICE. Even the hard core normal Democrats do not want to melt ICE down some want ICE investigated.

    Speaking of investigating look at those Trump fans, synchophants, and FBI haters who want to turn the FBI Inside out. How about those clowns who think that the FBI is controlled by the Easter Bunny , BigFoot, or run by something that does not exist DEEP STATE.!, THose peoplecare ready to trash the FBI.
     
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    Damn it Glitch. This was a fun thread to read. Why did you have to ruin it by bringing in facts?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you're defending the people who are saying that.
     
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    He must read your posts. :bored:
     
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    Says the people who just spent $15 billion for illegal aliens for 1 year who got in because we don't have a $10 billion wall that lasts 100 years.

    The Maginot Line is the dumbest example you could have come up with.
     
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    Wish I could take credit, but others have had this thought for years, going back to Sept 2015

    https://www.telegram.com/article/20150922/OPINION/150929827
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...ance-s-failed-border-wall-20170414-story.html
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/rea...ll-border-central-america-20170427-story.html

    The difference is that the Maginot line was only @ 200 miles.... The border between Mexico and the US is mucho longer than that...

    I think it's a perfectly fair comparison... only history will judge the results (if he gets anything actually built to compare)
     
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    What.. how did I "defend" them? Getvteal!
     
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    Any foolish trope can make make false accusations.

    So you are another one of those people who accuse others of BS when you cannot formulate an honest debate?
     
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    Just because others made a dumb comparison, that does not make your comparison valid. Do you even know what the Maginot line was? It was not a wall. It was a bunch of fortifications designed to cause the Germans to go around each one, should they invade. The theory was that the Germans would wear themselves out fighting all of these fortifications, which would bog down their attack. It was also designed and installed based on WWI tactics. Unfortunately, the French neglected to inform the Germans that they were suppose to stop and attack the fortifications. Using their new & improved WWII tactics, the Germans completely bypassed the fortifications by going around it through Belgium, making the Maginot line ineffective. I'm sure it worked quite well to stem illegal immigration, though.
     
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    Very fair comparison in that illegals and drug pushers will just go around Trump's wall just as the Germans did to the Maginot Line. Drug dealers do not use the open border much at all. They bring drugs in with shipments of goods in through normal channels, use aircraft, boats, little submarines, and by now propably drones. BTW drones can fly over Trump's wall in case you did not figure on that.
     
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    Sanctuary cities is an illegal action.
     
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    They don't want a wall because walls do work. They would reduce illegal immigration and the left wants an increase.
     
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    No, Trump is not increasing security at the border. He farts on and on about his wall and he has added somecwindow dressing by deploying National Guard troops and dome regulars. That is just the Con artist comming out of him.
     
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    Walks will only work in high density populations areas to constrict the border crossing. We already have walls at those locations.

    Think people think. Open your eyes, clean out your ears. The mass of people comming from the Central American states lately did not try to cross illegally ( some exceptions). They showed up right to the border and are trying to get in as refugees. The wall is not stopping those people.

    I have mentioned over and over that the drug pushers use the normal crossing points by hiding the drugs in with products or vehicles. Drug smugglers use boats, submarines and aircraft.

    Trump's wall is not a factor with that ilk.
     
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    Drones cannot fly over Trumps wall.. he's building it 30 ft. tall in some locations... Mexico doesnt have drones that can go that high..
     

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