Making A Racist.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by tecoyah, Aug 30, 2019.

  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    You are describing a terrible problem that has been created entirely by our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class and its government. Race has nothing to do with the problem.
     
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    On the born-again stupid believe that nonsense.
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  3. Josephwalker

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    I pay no attention to these left wing spin sites that call themselves fact checkers. I rely on reading books and actual history. Robert KKK Byrd ring a bell?
     
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  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then please explain to me what the underlying details are that I may be enlightened.
     
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    That's an idiotic response. I said that whatever the flag means to you determines if it's racist or not. And even gave you an example of why it might not be.

    Most definitely!

    I don't think excuses like "I have a friend who is black" or "I have a tenant who is black" or "I have a black guy who works for me" have ever convinced anybody. Actually, your expectation that such a lame "excuse" would be of any significance has exactly the opposite effect.
     
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  6. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And therein lies a major problem in this country...it would seem fact and truth no longer matter to some people. In some cases even video/audio documentation are not enough.
     
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    Sorry that was supposed to be to some one else in answer to the question why shouldn't you be able to speak any language you want?
     
  8. Ddyad

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    The KKK and neo-Nazis almost always support Democrats, even HRC and Obama, over any Republican
    For obvious reasons. The DP has always been the party of institutional racism in the US. The RP since reconstruction has been, for the most part, the party of indifference.

    Of course, almost all Democrats and Republicans, as opposed to politicians, are good people with good will for all their fellow Americans regardless of race.
     
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    More BS. Politifact is not a "left-wing" spin site. Clearly you are lying when you stated: I rely on reading books and actual history. Byrd rejected his racist past. When is KKK Donnie gonna reject his racist present-day bigotry?
     
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    Yep.......and the world is flat and Columbus discovered the South Pole before he slid off the edge of the world.
     
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    Well lets look a bit closer at what I said and implied. "You can't trust these so called fact check sites that are left wing spin in disguise."
    I earlier said democrats founded the KKK. Fact check responds to this assertion by checking if the democrat party officially started the KKK and then calls the charge false even though they had to build a straw man to find it false. Remember the original claim was democrats founded the KKK not the democrat party and remember the south at that time was overwhelming democrat and really the only Republicans were recent arrivals from the victorious anti slavery north known not so lovingly at the time as carpetbaggers.
    Now do you understand how fact check fooled you?
     
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    Byrd was a democrat and a grand wizard in the KKK. He got out of the organization for political reasons or a late life change of heart or both but the fact remains he was in the KKK
     
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    In other words you can't formulate a logical response to my post
     
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    Didn't say that he wasn't a member of the organization which endorsed KKK Donnie in 2016.
     
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    The specific problem your wife is dealing with is the result of government immigration policy.
     
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    Still waiting for your response on how I blew your so called fact check out of the water
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do understand that you just critiqued creating strawman argument with a strawman argument...correct?
     
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    What exactly was made up
     
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    What I realize is you don't want to address how factcheck contorted the fact to get the desired result
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you present the factual case, I will happily address it.....preferably with current day information rather than historic.
     
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    My original assertion was democrats founded the KKK. The response was a factcheck on if the democrat party founded the KKK which was supposed to prove my assertion wrong. See the problem here?
     
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    No no no.... I'm not talking about the "concepts". I'm talking about the culture.

    The real cowboys were Mexicans! This idea that some blue eyed tall European-like guy was herding cattle comes from John Wayne movies. Not from history. This is why almost all the language you normally associate with cowboys is Spanish. Because our cowboys spoke Spanish!

    However, you are right in that it really is the American culture! It's just that the American culture is not what you think it is.

    Dead serious! Immigrants learn our language if they need to. But it's their choice. Not yours. Not the government's.

    And this choice is what has created American culture. The real one. Not the one in your head. We have the richest cultural diversity in the world. By far!!! And it's because we have always welcomed diversity. It's what makes it richer. If the extreme right were to get their wish, our "culture" would stagnate and die. The fact that it's always developing, increasing, drawing from diverse sources is what makes the rest of the world become fascinated with us. It's why John Wayne is known in just about every country in the world. This is also why hamburgers are known as an American dish, and not from Germany or Denmark (which is where historians believe it actually originated) Or Jazz is "American culture", forgetting that it originated with a particular group of slaves coming from Congo to New Orleans.

    So stopping immigration. Or demanding that they "learn" what we already know... instead of teaching us new things that have always made us richer, would be killing the American culture.
     
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    Cowboys were all races even black and yes even white.
     
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    You think everyone not firmly on the left is racist.
     

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