Times when you hate to be right...

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you address this point yet?:
    Cars only have to be liscenced and registered to be operated on public roads. They can be owned, operated on private property, bought and sold, and even transported on public roads (like carried on a trailer) with no liscence (unless you're driving the tow vehicle) and no registration.

    If we treated guns the same, the only one of my several guns that would be subject to liscencing/registration would be the one that I carry. I could avoid liscencing or registering the others by simply limiting my shooting activities to private property.

    Supposing I were a criminal, how would this proposed legislation of yours make it harder for me to use my guns for criminal activity?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And who can't keep unwanted illegal aliens out of the country and off of welfare.
     
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  3. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    1. Yes, time and again, if you bother to read the exchanges on this thread.

    2. Will you stop regurgitating this BS! No matter how you buy or own a car, it has to be licensed OR registered OR both. Period. This is a paper trail for State & Federal. Period. Treat the gun the same, and criminals are less likely to risk purchasing one directly or through strawmen, and sellers are to be more cautious.
     
  4. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Wow, figured that one out all by yourself? Now, if it's made harder for them to disobey a law without getting caught, wouldn't they be less inclined to break said law? Or are they FS?
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    learn to read, will ya please? I'm talking about license and registration of PURCHASE.
    And stop babbling ….as to date law abiding tax paying citizens have a plethora or hand guns, rifles, shotguns, etc. to choose from. They do this legally.....and as any cop will tell you, the greater the ability to trace ownership makes criminals less likely to obtain weapons
     
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    And since I'm not talking about outlawing all guns, your statement is irrelevant.
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Not eliminate, but reduce....as the assault weapons of choice used in many mass shootings in the last 20 years would not have been available if the 1994 AWB was in place, or the weapons purchased by mass shooters through private or gun show sales been done if license and registration was mandatory.
     
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    How is reduction contradictory?
     
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    Doesn't matter what you do with it so long as it's licensed and registered.....kind of helps in the event of theft, ya know.
     
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    Already exists....but crime still goes on...we can only make ways to lessen/reduce such.
     
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    Why are you avoiding/denying the fact that one person with an assault weapon can kill 20 or more people during one single engagement than all they crimes you list? No one is saying don't identify the cause, but what the hell is wrong with trying to keep wrong doers from getting the tools they need to perpetuate evil?
     
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    Now you're just being silly.
     
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    Ask yourself: how did the Crip seller obtain that weapon? Would he run the risk if license and registration was required in all 50 states?
     
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    Until one shows up at a mass shooting or terrorist act.
     
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    There is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon"

    You can't ban something that does not exist.
     
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    Black market.

    How does a drug dealer obtain his illicit drugs?

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Like all gun parrots, you spew forth a lot of supposition and conjecture without any facts to support them. How do you think these illegally used arms are purchased in america? Do your homework and stop making absurd allegations.
     
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    Because those tools are necessary.

    Look at it this way. If it was a truck that was used, would you be talking about keeping wrong doers from obtaining trucks? Maybe putting a maximum weight on trucks that can be legally purchased, run background checks to see if they've ever committed felonies, and require trucks to be kept locked up in a truck safe while not in use?
     
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    Sorry, but even Wayn Lapierre can't sell that BS anymore:
    Dictionary.com defines "assault weapon" as "any of various automatic and semiautomatic military firearms utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge, designed for individual use." Merriam-Webster's online definition is "any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially: assault rifle. Mar 22 2019
     
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    No, but imagine a world were such laws didn't exist? Think of the movie "The Purge".
     
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    bad people use straw buyers that go to states with lax gun laws. federal license & registration would tip the cops to excessive purchases.
     
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    How do you think guns get on the black market? By using strawmen to buy in different states with lax gun laws...as straight out theft is risky in an of itself. The ATF and FBI go after those with inside men in the military arms. Like I said, not perfect, but a damn good limiter.

    drugs can be manufactured in a basement...research the meth crisis. Or purchased through unscrupulous doctors....research the opiod crisis. Get educated so you can keep up, will ya please?
     
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    guns by law abiding citizens, yes. Revolvers, shot guns, hunting rifles did the trick for generations....still do. Semi-auto's are also available. Ar-15's aren't necessary. regarding stolen trucks...as they are licensed and registered and traceable if used in a crime., don't cha know. So why not guns, who's sole purpose is to kill?
     
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    Right, so in your world you just toddle along without relative fear of assault or theft because of what....fairy dust? Sorry kid, but the threat of incarceration by a police force and legal system does that....and keeping tabs on who owns and sells guns to whom goes a long way in keeping the crime rate down, whether you believe it or not.
     
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    Why would one be so stupid as to license and register a machine for recreation and transport and not one for the express purpose of killing?
     

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