Why are illegal aliens released into the interior of the US?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Why do you assume that Trump has direct control over immigration law? As far as I know, the useless bastard Republicans haven't changed one single thing about immigration law, except for enforcing existing laws.
     
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    How so?

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    I see. And what happened that year?
     
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    the only thing Trump has done is advertise our loopholes to the world, thus creating a issue of people abusing our loopholes
     
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    Trump can't stop the people seeking asylum.
     
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    Nixon went to China
     
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    How did that result in congress no longer representing "the interests of US working citizens?"
     
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    How does that relate to my post?
     
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    Are you saying that under Trump, not one single alien not claiming asylum has been released into the interior? If this is true, then my question has been answered. Although, perhaps this is because no one says that they're not claiming asylum. Perhaps it is the case that every single last one of them claims asylum as a tactic for being released into the interior - someone suggested this earlier. I guess it makes sense, I mean what have they got to loose by lying? These non-genuine asylum seekers should be lined up and SHOT for wasting people's time when it could be spent on genuine asylum seekers.
     
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    Loopholes such as what?
     
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    nope, I would guess Trump has released many, never claimed otherwise, I asked why he would do that?
     
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    I am surprised you don't think we have any loopholes in the system that need changed
     
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    https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/library/P1.pdf

    OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) apprehended along the Southwest border by the USBP between official POE cannot be returned to Mexico because Mexico will not accept them. Instead, they must be returned to their countries of origin, or third countries that will accept them, by the Office of Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) within Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). However, DRO does not have enough detention beds to accommodate every OTM that is apprehended. As a result of this, the majority of OTMs apprehended by the USBP are released into the interior of the United States with notices to appear before an immigration judge. Most of these released OTMs fail to show up for their hearings and are not ultimately removed.
     
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    Well of course non-Mexicans won't be deported to Mexico - why would this report even need to mention that? It would seem to be stating the obvious. You appear to think that I'm asking why aren't illegal aliens immediately deported to MEXICO however what I'm actually asking is, why aren't illegal aliens immediately deported to their country of origin.
     
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    Well what other choice does he have?
     
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    Well I'm just wondering what loopholes specifically you are referring to.
     
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    I'll take that as a NO.
     
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    I'm not talking about holding them, I'm talking about deporting them instead of releasing them into the interior of the country. So do you have any idea why they aren't deported immediately?
     
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    I mean that how “genuine” an individual asylum claim might be isn’t determined by the route to reach the destination country. There are all sorts of reasons, good, bad and indifferent, why someone may seek to cross the border rather than present at port of entry. You can’t jump to any conclusion without understanding the reasons in any individual case.

    Your question was based on a flawed assumption about how asylum cases are legitimately assessed, much as the OP was based on flawed assumptions about how the systems work. Such assumptions are all too common and the cause of much of the arguments from all sides on the subject.
     
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    Of course, but you have to ask, what is more likely the case with someone doing it the hard way. Can you even think of one single possible reason why they would not go to a port of entry?
     
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    Fear of authority (especially if it is corrupt authorities they’re fleeing)? Feeling like the only way they can get to their destination country is via traffickers who will only take them across the border, not to a port of entry? Believing (rightly or not) that they have a better chance of being accepted if they’re in country rather than at the border? Children or other vulnerable people who aren’t in control of what happens to them?

    I’m not saying applying at the border isn’t the best and right approach, only that every case needs to be judged on all its merits and jumping to conclusions on the basis of limited information (in any direction) is unjustified.
     
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    We give them a hearing before a judge. Trump is expanding the power of officials to deport without a hearing. What if the official deports a U.S. citizen?
     
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    You mean to determine an asylum claim?

    Where would a US citizen be deported to and why would they be deported?
     
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