Reflecting on abortion <<Moderator's Warning >>

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by ARDY, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    I regard abortion and child-abandoning as contractual crimes - When you consent to sex, you consent to pregnancy and if you termit the pregnancy, you are guilty of breaking the contract.
     
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    Morally yes but legally no

    Here's where I'm at I think abortion is wrong but I don't for see it going away so the legal system needs to right the glaring wrongs in the system we have now.

    I'm not adovacating for paper abortions because I think a father running away from his responsibilities is right morally just to get parity in the laws we have on the books now
     
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    Worse is the man who abandons his child.
     
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    I think it’s the same story that I read that men punch a hole in a condom so that she’ll get pregnant and marriy him..LOL. Not unusual
     
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    Obviously we have different values because I think it is never right for a father to run away from his responsibility
     
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    Not that one.
     
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    He's not, he's running away from a fetus and a fetus isn't a human heck pro choicers sometimes call it a parasite
     
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    He's abandoning a fetus but at least he's not killing a fetus
     
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    Isn't that exactly what I described?
     
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    What contract?
    Have you know women who sign contracts before having sex agreeing to pregnancy ?

    Consent to one act is not consent to any other act. Have you know women who sign contracts before having sex agreeing to pregnancy ?


    Call an attorney if you doubt that.

    If you contract someone to re-roof your house they are not obligated to mow your lawn.....
     
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    He is not responsible for a fetus. He can have no responsibility..it all falls on her. But then we agree if it is carried to term and is born and it’s a child he has to support it for 18 years as does she.
    Actually by definition it is a parasite. You are offended by that the same way I am offended when you call a zygote a baby
     
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    I was that boy. It turned into a well rounded family with other siblings as well. Sometimes life's experiences causes us to grow up. Human nature wants to deny that and offers an easy way out at the expense of unborn souls.
     
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    Consent is a verbal contract. "Girlfriendhood" is a contract. Any voluntary agreement is a contract. I am seriously appalled that a Feminist like yourself don't understand this.

    If you consent to drinking a bottle of Jack, you consent to intoxication.


    That comparison is absolute horsepoop.
     
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    The girl has made the choice to take on his DNA. They now have a shared responsibility.
    That's funny you state "Actually by definition it is a parasite". because it is my belief that most left leaning citizens are parasites of the government.....but I'm not calling for their termination. Your thought process is a prime example as to why life is devalued in America today. All the way from MS13 gang members protected in sanctuary cities, to disarming law abiding citizens.
     
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    Killing a fetus is like a contradiction in term. ..when one does an autopsy is s/he killing it?
    Don’t have an abortion! Not everyone believes in zygote souls
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those that reject God, have no trust for Him. They think control is all about them and their desires. Problem is.....it effects others.
     
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    Not everyone believes liberal ideology is less than evil either.
     
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    And those who are worshippers of the man in the sky are hypocrites . You want your religion to affect me and control me.
     
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    They’re opinions...don’t confuse the issues
     
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    You seriously don't understand how voluntarily agreeing to a relationship or an act is a contract? Are you serious?

    Cool story, bro.
     
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    Renee, my son and his wife just lost a baby. They were warned ahead of time the baby had complications and there might be a problem. Abortion was something some people would consider an option. She carried it practically to term because we know of others where predictions were wrong and produced a wonderful life. Sure, there was heartbreak for us all, but we had a connection with that life (as you don't understand that). They did the mature adult thing and avoided the hedonistic solution you seem to embrace. It is a childish, fleshly action you encourage at every point.
     
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    Yes, your belief too is an opinion. It is not correct because you believe you have the moral high road. You absolutely do not.
     
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    Rothbard is laughing in his grave. :laughing:

    Advice: Don't be a meme.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives provide roads to drive on through government. We don't provide cradle to grave subsistence for weak minded individuals.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you cannot bring yourself to explain this. Thought you were about choice.....just not responsibility.
     

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