Trump 'orders Coast Guard Admiral' to publicly defend his false Alabama hurricane claims

I've been through hurricanes and tracked them listened to the projects and read the maps all my life. The 5 day cone is just 5 days and projecting that to the 6 along the anticipated path showed Alabama in the threat area, hurricanes don't just disappear on the sixth day. As I noted earlier my son down in Florida and I kidded that he could evacuate up here when it passed down there and we could have a party and then once in the Gulf we could all pack up and go down to his house and continue the party. Then it started to turn but still another day or so before the east part of Alabama was not under threat of heavy rains and flooding.

 

The 5-day forecast is pretty much the earliest that has any sort of relevance. Living in the Florida Panhandle, I watch this (and most storms that are forecast to hit Florida) very carefully. There was never a forecast that predicted that Alabama would be effected (yes, there were individual models that said it, but they were outliers to the general trend). It was foolishness to say Alabama would be effected, but it is also foolish to say that people in Alabama were endangered because Trump said what he said. What irritates me is that this story keeps on. Let's move on and worry about fixing Dorian's effects in our close neighbor, and in the effected U.S. areas.

 

Yea like me, I had already had plans to go out for supplies I needed and getting one of my five gallon gas cans filled Sunday morning. There were the models and the 5 day projecting showing it coming our way, that is not a point of debate, it CLEARLY indicated it at that time. There were predictions early on about how the Gulf is about 2 degrees higher than normal and if it did get into the Gulf rapid strengthening would be expected.

And the foolishness is people thinking we listen to the President, any President, for hurricane forecast and predictions and advisories. And I agree why the left keeps harping on it

 

Living in Pensacola, I never really was concerned about this storm, other than watching it carefully. I didn't buy extra supplies for the storm (I usually have enough food anyway). There was no real need. The 5-day cone is the point to make those decisions. I've done that since Ivan (which I evacuated for). I have yet to see a Gulf Coast storm that didn't hit somewhere inside it's 5-day cone. Yes, I've seen them hit either edge of the cone, but never totally outside of it. This includes Ivan, Dennis, Katrina, and Michael. I'm irritated at both the media and the pro-Trumpers on this one. The media for making a mountain out of a molehill, and the pro-Trumpers for doubling down on stupidity.

 

Hope not that would scare the s...... out of Alabamans.

 

They are just being "presidential."

 

When they should be professional journalists presenting documented facts not personal opinions.

 

The devastation inflicted by Hurricane Sharpie in Alabama is eerily reminiscent of that horrific Bowling Green Massacre.

 

Then they wouldn't be presidential!

 

Isn't there a county in named Bahama in Alabama?

 

The media had to report on the odd, the unusual, the off the track, the crazy. The job of the media is not to report there were no plane in crashes the last 276 Days. Until Obama it was not news that a White Protestant was elected POTUS.

It was not news that the Twin Towers were not attacked on 9-10.

 

anyone can be a journalist, we expect more from presidents

Presidential tweets are official Presidential statements

"Trump's Tweets 'Official Statements,' Spicer Says"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-tweets-official-statements-spicer-says-n768931

"White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday that Trump's tweets should be taken as official statements"

 

Don't really see your point here. Journalists that don't adhere to established journalism standards lose all credibility. Your attempts to justify it with trump tweets or official statements is a fail. When someone else including the president says "it's been reported" you assume he's talking about just that, it's been reported in some news story somewhere. A journalist using some article somewhere as a source for their article will make any reasonable person doubt the authenticity and veracity of their following article. It's just journalism 101.
In short any statement by any politician is a political statement to be viewed as such whereas a news article should be fact based and non political and you in theory should be able to take it to the bank

 

Since there are so many threads on how Trump failed to do the right thing with the threat by hurricane Dorian I figured not to start another but add this story here.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/8637...noaa-employees-over-tweet-contradicting-trump

Commerse secretary Ross threatened to fire NOSS staff after the Alabama weather office told the truth and contradicted Trump. Just when one thinks that this madness cannot get any worse bug then it does.

What next people? Will Trump tell Barr to have the FBI arrest any Republican who declares that he or she will challenge him in a primary?
Will he tell the FBI to arrest who ever thevDemocratic Party puts up for nomination for POTUS.

Who knows what evil lies in the brain of that man?

 

NOAA blinked because apparently the officials were threaded with firing if they were not willing to lie for the President.

When Trump issued his stupidity there were no models showing any risk to Alabama. And since Trump claimed to be following the storm closely the only explanation is that he thought Alabama was somewhere on the east coast.

 

Well darn those ignorant Democrat didn't accept Trumpie's sharpie path. How could they possibly think drawing on a map with a sharpie wasn't proof of a hurricanes path.

 

Thanks for proving my point. I bet you think the map meant the hurricane would be over at 8 AM.

 

Yes I did prove Trump's ignorance. Not hard.

 

By proving your own? Fascinating concept.

 

why would not Trump supporters hold the President's official statements to a higher standard than a reporter?

 

When he is right, he is right. The lefties that believe the Trump hating media completely ignorant of what the picture shows due to not having much of a background in science really is their problem.

 

A politician is obviously going to push their agenda and seek to shape public opinion and by definition that is their job. A journalist at least theoretically has no agenda except informing the readers with facts free of his or her own opinion and that is their job. Unfortunately those days seem gone forever and the public has lost all faith in jornalist to present unbiased facts.

 

More nonsense from people expecting us to ignore what Trump actually said and when because they are willing to ignore it themselves. This whole "Trump was telling the truth as long as you rewrite what he said" nonsense is so tiresome. Not all of us are willing to engage in the willing self-deception that Trump fandom requires

 

Yet another conspiracy theory. LOL

 

Trump has no political agenda, his agenda is to attack people, take credit for others work, and lie it seems