Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

There are always exceptions. Yet the big mass shooting are dominated with AK type of semi automatic rifles.

And as I noted. Civilians are able to use that weapon like a soldier is trained to rage a war. Them soldiers don't go in there with a handgun as a preferred weapon.

 

Only because such firearms are commonly owned in the united states. There is nothing that can be done to address such, so move onto another topic of discussion.

Which, once again, means absolutely nothing of either relevance, or significance. Firearms such as the AR-15, AK-47, and all other types of semi-automatic rifles of similar design and configuration, have done on to become the most popular, commonly owned rifles in the united states, far surpassing all other types that share the market with them. This is a fact that is simply not going to go away, nor is it going to change, so there is no logical point in continuing to complain about the matter further. The market has shifted away from firearms suitable for hunting, to firearms suitable for defensive purposes, thus making them the new normal. All one can do is accept such as the status quo and move on, or appear deranged by continuing to argue that antiquated and obsolete firearms technology is perfectly acceptable for the modern world, while trying to argue the same standard does not apply to all other modern conveniences they just so happen to use in everyday life.

 

How so explain?

White guy kills 6 people...Its all over the news and gun bans are called for..

Gang banger kills 6 black people and barely a whisper...

 

You made a point about handguns, and now that you realize that the biggest mass shootings are dominated by AK kind of semi automatic assault rifles,... you go complain about this. Shotguns are most popular, and the difference between rifles and handguns is hardly worth mentioning. And so AK type of weapons are part of them rifles and so not that common as you pretend.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/5-most-popular-guns.htm

The fact that will not go away is that a massive majority doesn't want them guns. All one can do is accept that it is so and move on. The US is a democracy and people want seriously tough restrictions on them weapons.

 

So, they don't have to buy them then.

So why don't you?

The US is a Republic, if it was a democracy you would have never seen civil rights expanded the way they were. The majority rules. The vast majority who want them restricted have no knowledge or understanding of them and can't even explain why certain features should be banned.

 

Factually incorrect. No realization of such points was had, merely acknowledging why firearms such as the AR-15 and AK-47 are utilized in certain mass shootings. It is not because they are ideally suited for such purposes, it is merely because they are available, just like every other firearm that is utilized in mass shootings.

An opinion piece contained withing a blog site holds no relevance to the discussion, since there is no way of reviewing the criteria utilized in determining how such distinctions were made.

The free market of the united states suggests otherwise. There are over ten million AR-15 rifles alone in the united states, and nearly every firearms manufacturer operating within the united states is producing their own copy for sale. Such would not be the case if the public truly did not want these firearms for ownership and use. Capitalism demands profits over politics.

The united states is a constitutional republic, where the rights of the minority are not crushed and disregarded by mere majority vote, without consideration for how those affected may suffer as a result. Such is why homosexual marriage has been regarded as a constiutional right.

 

The more bigger mass shootings in the US say they are suited for such purposes. Also, soldiers around the world use the setting semi auto on such weapons as well, not handguns.

The relevance is that AK kind of weapons are not so popular as you claimed to be. And that aint an opinion. I have yet to see you debunk this.

That suggests that putting far more tougher checks on semi's is somehow unconstitutional. And that it a fallacy. I wouldn't know why selling guns by one person to an other (which happens without background checks) should be legal. And when made illegal,... still well within the constitution.

 

Rifles of all types, including the sub category of ARs and AKs account for a tiny fraction of gun related deaths, including those in mass shootings, in the US...far less than killed with non firearm means. Yet they are vilified by the MSM...why? $$$
As for the popularity of a gun, why are glock pistols more popular than 1911s? Or... pick two guns.

Why are ARs or AKs used frequently in mass shootings? Might the MSM have something to do with it with their constant chatter about them being the weapon of choice.... nothing short of an advertising program.

Have different rules for buying semi autos vs other guns? Why? What rates semi autos as having need for such treatment?

 

I'm talking about mass murder, not just a death. So I'm not interested in moving that goalpost.

I made a point that soldiers also use AK kind of weapons, using the semi-automatic option to rage their war. I don't recall they go at it armed with a shotgun or a pistol Hence the point is,... civilians should be having them.

 

The annual toll of Mass murder by sickos is minuscule in the scheme of things only magnified out of proportion by the hysterics of the mass media sources that look to capitalize, literally, on the incidents.

You comment on different requirements for purchasing in post 1182 mentioned ‘semis’ not ‘AK type’ of weapons. Did you conflate the two?
Then in the most recent post, as for your comment on ‘semis’, did you miss post... wanting to say civilians shouldn’t have semi autos.

BTW, there are soldiers in the military that do at times use a shotgun as a primary weapon. Sometime a pistol as a primary weapon. Like many of us, weapons are chosen to fit the task at hand; I don’t hunt rabbits with a 30,06 nor deer with a .22 cal.

 

It happens as good as every day. WTF you on about calling what happens every day... some kind of incident. It's "normal" that it happens.

Yeah... and some use a pocket knife. I dunno who you think you're kidding with this bull.

 

I’ve said nothing not factual; sorry it upsets you. Mass killings don’t happen every day and what you call ‘normal’ is a highly subjective measure. Considering how tiny the toll is in mass shootings, what constitutes a ‘normal’ occurrence as a such a threat that it requires creating a separate class for purchasing requirements. Make your case.
You aren’t being precise in your use of terminology, so it’s difficult to comment in the context you are thinking. Do you think semi autos constitute a separate threat from ARs or AKs? If so, why?

 

They happen on average more than ones a day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019#Statistics

I dunno why you're not getting your facts straight first.

 

How old are you? Don’t like when someone disagrees with you eh? Then, you don’t answer questions but respond with indignation... yeah, ok.

So, your posts were related to the demonization of ARs and AKs, then semi autos that should have different purchasing requirements.... So, how many mass shootings in your list did the shooters use the evil guns you are discussing.

Then too,
https://www.acsh.org/news/2019/08/09/4-myths-about-mass-shootings-14214
“Mass homicides get a lot of news coverage which keeps our focus on the frequency of their occurrence. Just how frequent is sometimes muddled by shifting definitions of mass homicide, and confusion with other terms such as active shooter.”

But using standard definitions, most data suggest that the prevalence of mass shootings has stayed fairly consistent over the past few decades.”

A person robbing a liquor store with a .22 revolver that decides to eliminate 4 witnesses has the capacity to commit mass murder under the current definition. As is a deranged father that might murder his family with a .22 rifle. Are these type of crimes to be considered the same as Parkland or Las Vegas?

 

I sourced that you are being dead wrong. I proved that. And so the conclusions you draw out of your "alternative" facts are also wrong.

I'm not your Alexa or Siri.
Again.. if you aren't interested in this, than so be it. But stop bothering others.

 

So, if you don’t like being challenged for your posts on a public forum, but, too bad.
If you think you have somehow prevailed in this discussion, good for you. Think you’ve convinced the other participating posters?

 

I said that a mass shooting happens about every day. You claimed it aint so. I proved you wrong.
So it's up to you know to put in an effort, not me.... again.

 

Sure now.

 

if you do not have some argument than.. you know...

 

Not what I posted, but that’s ok, you exposed yourself.... and got boring.

 

Such is the claim, but absent is the actual proof to demonstrate the claim as being factually correct.

Which, once again, means absolutely nothing of relevance. Semi-automatic firearms have been commonly owned, and in common use for legal purposes, for over a century. Their design and production is only slightly younger than that of the double-action revolver.

The site linked by yourself is still nothing more than an opinion piece, put together from the perspective believed by the author rather than based on actual facts that can be confirmed in a scientific manner.

Semi-automatic firearms are still firearms, no different from any other type currently available on the private market. From a legal standpoint they cannot be subjected to any different restrictions of regulations, on the mere basis that they are semi-automatic. It does not matter if soldiers use their issued weapons in a semi-automatic fashion for the sake of ammunition conservation, it makes no legal difference.

 

other than that the utterly fast majority doesn't want people to have AK's, and that those kinds of weapons are frequently used to mass shootings. It's a weapon that shoots semi, and soldiers use that setting to rage war. The people do not want other civilians to rage war on them. And you got nothing.

 

well there you go. The bigger ones are dominated with assault rifles.
https://www.axios.com/deadliest-mass-shootings-common-4211bafd-da85-41d4-b3b2-b51ff61e7c86.html

So what.

You aint debunking anything. Just whining.

This is just utterly nuts. You don't go hunting with a handgun. To claim it's all kind of the same and there is no real difference is just incorrect. It does matter that soldiers shoot rifles as semi in times of war. And people have a massive problem with civilians raging war against them with such weapons.

 

Glad he did because what Dems want to pass is without due process and no definition of mentally ill. Would that include people diagnosed with depression or anxiety for which they take medication.

the law they are wanting is way to vague and I don't trust the Government to enforce it correctly.

this is why I never sign up on Clinic and doctor websites and why I never tell medical professionals if I am depressed. Electronic Wil
I be misused by the Federal Government. Unfortunately, we are forced to accept Medicare and open our entire heath history to the Buracracy.

 

I and many others have do hunt with hand guns. The question of hunting with hand guns vs long guns is one of whether the weapon can reliably humanely kill the game being hunted and that the hunter has sufficient skill to use one; and, most states dictate minimum cartridges for hunting specific game. Even with rifles, such cartridges as the .223/5.56 are/were considered too weak for hunting game such as deer. Few handguns/cartridge combinations existed until the 70’s and 80’s that were considered viable, but now there are handgun combinations that can take any game in North America.
There are some 125 million gun owners in the US, they aren’t waging war, and if they did, they own more weapons than all the armies and LEAs in the world combined. Over 1/3 of Americans own guns, meaning they are ubiquitous among people’s neighbors, you can’t tell me people are afraid of every third neighbor.
Most rapists are men, but there is no great call among women that express fear of every man because they have a penis. But, if there are women who fear rape... a good reason for them to be armed.