My AR-15 is 'ready for you', Texas lawmaker tells Beto O'Rourke

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Two things about your statement.

    1: That's an old socialists statement designed to appeal to emotions. After all, only selfish people don't consider the needs of the many and selfish people aren't worth listening to amiright? Its a mob mentality that is a black and white argument that ignores all shades in between.

    2: It's also ironic considering that relatively speaking few people actually are killed with guns. Even if you consider ALL people killed with guns regardless of why they were killed (such as suicide) the amount of people killed is less than 1 percent of the total population of the United States yet the CDC (thanks to Obama btw) showed that around 500k to 3 million people use guns for self defense per year. So if you really do believe in that mantra then you would be on gun advocates side rather than the gun control advocates side. After all, the needs of the many (500k-3million) outweigh the needs of the few (40k killed counting suicides (and that's on the high side)).
     
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    It has nothing to do with crime, it's about people control by a tyrannical governent.
     
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    The Courts have negotiated what are considered "rights" many times in the last 200 years. Right to vote has changed. Rights to own property. Rights to marry. While you have a right to defend yourself, nobody promised you would have the right to personally own every weapon known to man to do it.

    We've already had a national assault weapons ban (1994) that the Courts upheld until it expired. That ban was pushed by support letters from Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan. It was hardly an end of the world for gun owners.
     
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    The needs of the many?

    Great, then you agree that the freedoms of millions of people outweigh the few hundred deaths caused by all rifles every year.
     
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    The CDC showed no such thing

    Biggest NRA lie EVER

    The CDC actually said that there was a variance in the reported research and that more research needed to be done

    The supposed 3 million DGUs were from Klerksdorp study/survey

    https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense
     
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    The first 157 years of this country's history there were no Federal gun laws infringing on our 2A rights.

    It wasn't until the extreme left-winger and control freak FDR that our first Federal infringement of our gun rights was enacted.
     
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    And the Clinton DOJ said the AWB had no impact on crime.
     
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    I didn't say it did. I said the Courts upheld the ban as Constitutional for ten years.
     
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    Of course the CDC used outside studies. Duh. They only spent a few months on that report. But do you really think that the CDC would cite uncredited studies? Like it or not Kleck's study has been reviewed and no one has actually been able to honestly fault its methodology or conclusion. Even one of the top criminologists at the time that Klecks study, Marvin E. Wolfgang, stated:

    Link to: A TRIBUTE TO A VIEW I HAVE OPPOSED ~ MARVIN E. WOLFGANG

    Kleck's research has been used in our courts and Kleck has testified before Congress. Like it or not, Kleck's research is valid and peer reviewed.
     
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    Because the right still nominally respects the views of the framers on this topic, while the world has long ago moved on:

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - Thomas Jefferson
     
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    My drill Sargent said they were.

    You think they were designed for target shooting???
     
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    Drill sergeants don't tend to be rocket scientists. Maybe he should have explained to you how an AR is any more deadly than any other semi-auto? Did he also hold the same opinion as beta boy Beto that the AR and AK shoot these super deadly bullets that tear bodies apart and leave blood all over the battlefield?
     
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    AR was designed by manufacturer as a military assault weapon. Not great as a hunting rifle.

    Designed for soldiers....and really paranoid, effeminate men
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Wrong, it was designed from the get go for civilians and police.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_AR-15

    Depending on options and the type of hunting you are doing, it works fine. Just ask a TX hog hunter.
     
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    So, they spent all that money to design a military rifle that will never be used by the military?
     
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    I'm using your word Clyde, did you forget already?
    Now you change the word to version, any more goal posts you'd like to move?
    BTW, version is totally different such as M16a2 and M16a4. You should have learned that from your DI.
     
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    The Deep State will not go door-to-door looking for guns

    When libs outlaw the guns they will attach stiff penalties to illegal procession that will bankrupt the average person

    Which will put gun owners in a very difficult position

    You you value the 2nd Amendment fight for it now through the legislative process
     
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    So you still believe everything your drill Sargent said? Interesting.
     
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    In who's army is sergeant spelled "sargent"?
     
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    Because when you manipulate voting to guarantee that one party wins over another, that's wrong.

    The Democrat party is directly descended from the Democrat-Republican party, so Gerry was a Democrat. George Washington had no political party.
     
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    And then sometimes they don't and people die. Why take the risk?

    As for paranoia, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you. Every creature that dies to feed another should have been more paranoid.
     
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    but why? after all we all have to die someday. as I mentioned earlier, when it's your time, its your time and nothing can stop it.
     

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