I'm A Gun Owner

I do realize that my chance of being struck by lightning or being eaten by a shark is higher than being killed in mass shooting.
But it does not change the fact that there are people who do die in these events. It also does not mean that just because the chances of you in particular dying from it is low does not mean we should not try to limit even that small chance, especially if doing so does not limit 2A.
To me, elimination of even one mass shooting is enough to justify some small changes and rules.

 

So seeing as twice as many people are killed each year by vending machines, why are you not up in arms about that? How about bicycles, you can save 40 times more people by banning bicycles than by banning guns. Are you in favor of banning bicycles?

 

I never said I’m in favor of banning guns.

 

I will agree that the wannabes and phony baloney bad guys most likely do get a woodie from tactical gear. But banning tacitical gear is not going to deter the mass shooter.

You are likely correct that a shotgun or a semi auto pistol is plenty for home defense. Farmers who have animal herds need an AR type weapon in function. I am not a fan of the AK because I am not convinced of it's accuracy except at very close range. An AK is a good functioning weapon for urban use but I do not see it useful on a cattle ranch or big farm.

 

The simplest and most eloquent statement of fact I have heard yet.

There is no denying the truth. But the "We will noisily protest the sightest change, (in an AMENDMENT, called such as it is meant to be AMENDED !), crowd
will never concede the point, purely on (flawed) principle. They dont really care about lives lost.

 

So...why does the left not apply that same logic to illegal immigrants that kill Americans? If it saves just one life...

 

These comparisons to guns such as " we should ban broccoli because 13, 357 people choked eating broccoli is asinine, rediculous, and just plain foolish and wrong.

 

They are popular with hunters culling large sounders of feral hogs. Very well suited for that task.

 

It really boils down to velocity and bullet type. A FMJ round from a 9mm at 1150 fps will penetrate through houses worse than a good ballistic tip or SP at 3000 fps 5.56 round. Same for a FMJ .45 ACP at 850 fps. Of course bullet weight will be a factor as well. I’ve made a lot of holes in an abandoned house I own to verify these claims are true. It is true 5.56 FMJ in an AR is not a wise choice for home defense. From 100 yards out it will go through the exterior wall, two interior walls, and exit the second exterior wall leaving a round hole.

If anyone is shooting in houses in populated areas it’s wise to use the correct ammunition. Much more important than firearm or caliber choice.

 

This how they devolve when they've "got nothing"...

 

I don’t know - I’m not a leftist and I am against illegal immigration.

 

Ummm yeah, just the other day I was hanging out with a huge group of farmers who cull large sounders of feral hogs, and they all agreed the world needs more AK style weapons. /s

 

Ok yes I have heard that using an AK type weapon is popular for killing wild hogs. My thinking is that a M14 or some other seminauto chambered for .308 caliber would fit that task. You think? Hell even something in a 30.06 would do.

 

Sure you are. You are just not being honest about it. Any type permits, regulations, licenses, etc. in fact makes gun ownership illegal, and can only be done with government approval. Once that stage is reached, it is a simple process of incrementalism to outlaw guns all together. Just as the income tax was implemented as no big deal, less than 1% for most people, once implemented it is then advances little by little by incrementalism.

I have demonstrated that in fact, mass shooter deaths are a non event, and the chances of a mass shooting impacting your life is practically 0%. So why are you still so sure something needs to be done about this issue, when there are so many other causes of death which are much more lethal and yet no one cares.
Are you so sure your opinion and reasoning has not been skewed by the media to believe something you would not otherwise believe?

 

No it isn't. What are you claiming to use as a rabbit gun?

 

Shhhhh. Quiet now... The "feral hogs" thing is the last defense they've got.

 

The bill of rights only specifically gives the right to posses ONE government issued weapon. No more. And that could be rented out.

You don't even have a stated right to own a weapon - only possession [bearing] is stated..And it doesn't give each person the right to arms - arms being plural. It gives the people the right to bear arms. If they meant more than one for each person. it would guarantee that right for each citizen.

In order to comply with the 2nd amendment, apparently the right to posses one bullet is implied. But I don't see any right to possess ammunition.

 

Evidently you are not aware of how they reproduce in huge numbers and the devastation they produce to crops. What do you think 50 hogs can do to a crop, overnight?

 

No they are right on point. You claim that this is a major issue that requires the elimination of basic human rights. You claim the reason for your attack on human rights is the high number of deaths. If you are honest about wanting to save lives then your motivation should be to save as many people as possible.
So explain to me why you would not be in favor of banning bicycles when they kill 40 times as many people as mass shootings, or vending machines when they kill twice as many?

 

A bit of overkill and more expensive ammo but sure.

 

Cannot argue that. Where I live now in a age 55+ community a high velocity weapon would be dangerous to innocent neigpbhors. Now in the back is woods and we have the occasional black bear that rummaged under my deck, and bobcats hunt squirrels and rabbits in the back. The bear. He posed for pictures and went away our complex actuall has woods on three sides but the town houses are tight together.

 

What? Where the hell did you come up with that B*ll sh*t. Where does it say that? Come on show us!

 

I just stated the facts. The proof is self evident. Read the second amendment.

Show me where the 2nd amendment contradicts anything I said. You are entitled to possession of one government issued weapon and perhaps one bullet. But the proof of a right to a bullet is debatable.

 

What are you ranting about? What fornicating human rights have I "attacked". Name them and quote me or stop your silly accusations.

 

Ha ha ha ha ...wasn't there a horror movie where wild feral hogs attacked like savage Huns overrunning Rome?