Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

Propaganda.

 

Most stocks are immensely overvalued

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesberman/2018/10/04/time-to-buy-the-emerging-markets/#758eb85e60c2

 

Iran needs to be liberated just like Nazi Germany was.

 

We tried something like that in 1954, with Mossa Degh (and FAR less justification) That's why we have the situation we have there now.

 

It was a can down the road... in fact Iran and the 2008 Financial crisis was two 44 gallon drums, filled with dynamite and a grenade attached kicked down the road... and I fear the pin is about to be pulled on both.

If Obama dealt with these issues on his watch, we wouldn't be where we are now.

ps I don't read fake news media on its own, compare with conservative sources... their only function is to manipulate.

 

TRUE - even if you get more hits on them than they get on YOU - You will wake up to
ruined Cities and the utter devestation of your distribution and other critical Infrastructure
.....................................- A few well placed large EMP's would be sufficent to accomplish that

It would not be long before those who survived would begin to wish that
.............................................................................................. they were DEAD


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You sure don't know anything about Yemen or what's been going on there .. The Saudis moved all their villages back 20 kilometers from the border in 2002… because Yemen was suddenly swarming with all manner of terrorist groups.. from AQ to Boko Haram to al Shabaab to the Houthis.

 

So, we need to keep the oil flowing from Saudi Arabia to China, so China can keep getting stronger and threaten the U.S. Great policy, Great Orange One!

 

Trump already struck out.

Iran and China unveil 25 year $400 billion energy ...
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/iran-and-china-unveil-25-year-400-billion-energy...
Apr 18, 2018 · The central pillar of the new deal is that China will invest $280bn developing Iran's oil, gas and petrochemicals sectors. This amount may be front-loaded into the first five-year period of the deal but the understanding is that further amounts will be available in every subsequent five-year period, subject to both parties' agreement.

 

1. Drone Wars: China Has $400 Billion At Stake In Iran Oil
   https://www.forbes.com/.../09/16/drone-wars-china-has-400-billion-at-stake-in-iran-oil
   6 hours ago · China recently agreed to invest some $400 billion in Iran’s oil and gas, petrochemicals, transport and energy-related manufacturing sectors over the next 25 years.
   
   
2. China signs a 25-year geopolitically and economically ...
   https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/cznpfl/china_signs_a_25year_geopolitically_and
   12 days ago · China signs a 25-year geopolitically and economically strategic deal with Iran! Chinese will spend $400 BILLION on all kinds of infrastructure/energy projects in Iran. In return, Iranians will supply discounted oil and join/enhance BRI.
   

 

aRU sure ?
And just how much does "Margot2" know of the Houthi's ?

FROM BROOKINGS
Who Are The Houthi's And Why Are We At War With Them?
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/mark...-the-houthis-and-why-are-we-at-war-with-them/
From The Article:
This brief and simplified account of the background of the Houthis should underscore how complex
Yemeni politics are and how volatile they can be. Saleh called running Yemen to be akin to dancing
on the heads of snakes. It is a foolish place for Americans to be drawn into a war and a quagmire
against an enemy they hardly know. The administration has recently called for an easing of the
blockade. It’s time to get serious about a political solution, not to wade deeper into quicksand


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bubble

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@Margot and @Jeannete

All of this talk about China annoys me. I know the issues first hand. Whenever the European multi-nationals pull out of deals to invest in developing Iran's huge natural gas reserves, Iran turns to China for such investments. And the Chinese negotiate deals with Iran that they have never implemented. The terms of the deal aren't what some people with suspicious links who want to torpedo such negotiations pretend and leak to the media, and some of what they pretend is purely nonsense, but even the parts that are grounded in fact represent what you get when you have two sides who ultimately aren't prepared to make a deal with one another. On one side, you have China, which isn't interested in finding itself the object of unwanted attention from Washington, trying to get somethings in paper to take to Washington and say this is what will happen if you don't stop bothering us. On the other side, you have Iran, whose oil industry is dominated by folks with corrupt links to European multi-nationals and who prefer to work with them, trying to deliver a message to Washington to allow European multi-nationals to work in Iran's oil and gas sector because otherwise the Chinese would. But since neither side is interested in going through with any of it, you end up with more and more deals with less and less actual content.

Lets focus on what is real. And that is not Chinese investments in Iran's oil and gas sector. If such deals, even at a fraction of what is claimed, ever took shape, China would have more reason to worry about threats to Iran than anyone else. But because China is actually not really that invested at all, their policies are actually guided by the ones that show them making actual deals being implemented all over the world, including with Iran's biggest regional enemies, Saudi Arabia and Israel. While China's economy is ultimately all too linked and dependent on the global economic system dominated by the US Dollar for China to ever be more than an oligarchy overseeing a mercantile economy looking for more and more trade and commerce.

China will not be any cheerleader for war with Iran. That is for sure. But they aren't going to do much more about it either. And the truth is, all the irritating talk by that spoiled kid running things in Wahhabi Arabia notwithstanding, the Saudis had already begun to realize that the need to apply some breaks on the march to war against Iran -- never mind they had helped fuel that march before. They get hit right now, no longer so much as a message to them (but that too), but as a message to their overlords.

 

Which allies does Iran have?

 

Once the Chinese get into Iran they will never get out. It will become a Mideast Tibet. They'd better hope the US and others break up this little deal, if there is any substance to it..

 

Why? The Iranians deserve to be strangled, demonized, and wrecked.

 

WW3 over Iran?
Whatever you were drinking before that dinner must have been some good sh!t.

 

1- Because you will discover, the hard way, something you should have discovered by now but apparently haven't: you have no better choice.
2- Because even your true 'enemies' in Iran are mostly just enemies of what you often do wrong. Even they aren't nearly as 'evil' was you have been led to believe.
3- Because what I suggested is the best way for the US to help out its true friends in Iran. And no where in the region will America find as many such friends.

The only ones that have prospered and benefited from America's war against Iran are those who prosper in an environment that promotes those who specialize in spreading lies, corruption, and propaganda. And you have such types already promoted too much, taking over much of the affairs and institutions in both Iran and the US.

 

There is no anti American, anti Trump propaganda coming out of Iran? Do you really believe that the propaganda only flows in one direction?

 

You're right that there will be no WWIII over Iran. The sanctions are working just fine and will likely be tightened even more. The change must come from within Iran.

 

I never suggested it is only in one direction. Never.

 

Yet, as far as I've read, you've never mentioned the alternative. Instead you rail against America and Trump as though they're the source of evil in the world. Of course had there been another non Muslim President he, or she, would also have been the victim of Iranian propaganda, just as is any leader of Israel.

 

Like one of these rhinos said in ice age - stop making a scene! We will break your neck so you won’t feel a thing.

Decapitating Iran wouldn’t be that difficult.

 

This is not the forum for me to fight against the falsehoods in the other side's propaganda! But when I encounter aspects of it here - shared with falsehoods borrowed from other propaganda wars - I try to correct them to the extent I can.

 

Decapitating the US wouldn't be that difficult either. And the dinosaurs became extinct because size isn't all that counts, even if some have been led to believe otherwise.