City bans calling someone an ‘illegal alien’ out of hate

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  1. BillRM

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    Guess we will have to settle on asking Trump about building a wall to keep the same people out that he had a long history of hiring in his businesses.

    It indeed I wonder how a low grade con-man can become president and then play a large percent of his supporters as fools.

    Footnote ten of thousands in a nation of plus 350 millions and a nation that have a labor shortage on top of that?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I peruse this and other threads about illegal aliens, I get the impression the left believes the only way they can get here is the illegal way and not the legal way.

    For the past few years the left has repeatedly spouted the phrase 'no one is above the law' all while they defend illegal aliens and put them above the law and above Americans.
     
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    Sorry.... but there is something called defamation. And that's where my equivalence comes in.
     
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    Let see Trump is trying to reduce the number of legal immigrates by one half or more just to start with.

    At a time when we have a labor shortage on top of that.

    NPR just did an interview this past week with an Indian gentleman who spend years getting advance degrees and then wish to remain in the US afterward.

    He was force to return to Indian however.

    Within a few years of his return using the knowledge he had gain in the US the Tech company he started is already have a net worth of a billion dollars an employed thousands.

    Cutting our own damn throats.
     
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    Here's another one that doesn't 'get' the difference between LEGAL, and, ILLEGAL.

    LEGAL immigrants and/or temporary workers are just FINE! Got that? JUST FINE! It's the ILLEGAL ALIENS who barge into OUR country looking for handouts from American-hating Democrats that should be kept out, found out, and ROOTED OUT. If you really can't 'get' that now, you never will....
     
  6. Steve N

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    Does calling someone a racist, homophobe, etc fit into the defamation category?
     
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    Are we supposed to change our immigration policy because of one guy? To me, it sounds like the guy you referenced is better of being allowed to come here than illegals and other unskilled, low IQ people because they won a lottery or chain migration.
     
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    LOL a billion dollars an thousands of jobs lost in just one case due to people like you not liking damn foreigners is no problem.

    As far as low IQ given the nonsense that Trump is getting away with selling that seem more of a US problem.

    Next I am sure that Americans would just love to look forward to working in the fields or the slaughter houses.
     
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    Legal workers are just fine that why Trump is trying to cut the numbers in half or more when we have a labor shortage an American businessmen are going bankrupt due to lack of labor.

    Oh by your thinking then Trump hate the US given that he had a long long history of hiring illegal workers.
     
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    So I’ll ask again, why don’t the illegals get in line and come here legally, we are a nation of laws ya know.
     
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    I aint your siri
     
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    Sorry, I thought you were an expert on defamation, at least that’s how you sell yourself.
     
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    Just because you can come up with a question, doesn't mean I go hop through that hoop. I thought you knew how this works. You go look things up, make an argument, and post it here.
     
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    You hop through the hoops your masters tell you to hop through. You guys can use every insult and every slur you can think of in order to express your hate for those you disagree with, but suddenly you find legal terms to be offensive and racist.
     
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    You wamt to punish me for a sign that I didnt make in a place I have never been and before I was born?

    Thats so libish of you

    But also the sort of confused emotionalism I have come to expect from the left
     
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    Yeah this is a bad law.
     
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    which illegal alien isn’t.

    Which is why it’s a false equivalence, as I pointed out.
     
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    Well of course it's true that it's used as a racist slur. But you know,... the racist, whose you seem to be rooting for, is also incriminating a person. And THAT is where the racist crosses the line.
     
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    That is calling somebody a criminal, and so defamation is in place.
     
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    No it isn’t. It’s a racially motivated slur. Not defamation. This law was void at inception.
     
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    It is also racially motivated. But it's also calling somebody a criminal.
     
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    No it isn’t. It’s no different than calling someone a thug.
     
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    Yes it is. Since calling somebody an illegal alien is accusing them to be a criminal.
    You can't just accuse other people to be a pedophile in the same way.
     
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    nope

    So is calling someone a thug. It’s a racially motivated slur.
    Of course you can.
     
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    yup
    A thug is not racially motivated
    Elon Musk is even suit over it.
     

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