Atheism Gets the Darwin Award!

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    its elementary
    I said its easy to prove a negative, anyone who spent 2 weeks in a philosophy class knows this.
    Negatives are easy to prove.
    I do not know that proving the existence of a unicorn is a negative, do you?
    So while proving a negative is easy, that is not to imply as you incorrectly interpreted my post, that the subject matter of the negative you wish to prove is easy.
     
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    I thought you were the one that claimed it was. But you are still ducking the comparison. And it was proving the non existence of unicorns, in case you were actually capable intellectually of following the discussion.
     
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    I have no reason to join your strawman argument, I have good reason to point out the folly of strawman arguments. You simply cant reasonably compare subject matter to the procedure in handling the subject matter, that would be ridiculous.
     
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    wah,was,wah,wah,wah. If you can’t deal with the analogy you fail.
     
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    No reason to deal with red herrings and strawman nonsense. If you want to make corrections and repost go for it.
     
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    Your honesty and integrity are uncommon among atheists. I salute you, Sir.
     
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    Your references to Unicorn and Easter Bunny are NOT comparable, but are truly strawman arguments. They are petty but commonly put forth by your fellow atheists. You parrot.

    I can prove that I am not Abraham Lincoln since he was assassinated in 1865. So negatives can be proven, notwithstanding your condescending remarks.
     
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    why don’t you try to explain why they are not comparable. Bet you can’t. And actually you cannot prove with 100% certainty that Lincoln was assonated in 1865. All you can point to is written records that can be faked as we all know.

    and since you clearly use straw-man out of a lack of understanding here is what it means

    straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
     
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    didn’t do that as you well know. Now prove to me unicorns don’t exist. It is no different from you asking to prove god doesn’t exist.
     
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    enjoy your attempt at diversion. Just explain why proving that god doesn’t exist is any different from proving unicorns don’t exist.
     
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    THE SUBJECT of the thread is Atheism Gets the Darwin Award.
    Ricahard Dawkins asserts that our "sole reason" for being is to make copies of ourselves.
    That being the case, atheists are miserable failures since they marry less, and have fewer children
    than people of faith.

    Atheists should try to address their Darwin Award instead of changing the subject, which of course is a violation of the rules, not that godless Leftists care about any rules......
     
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    YouTube boy makes some good points.

    I'm now convinced that the only way to save the planet is to sterilize (delusional) believers and give atheists 10-large for every woman they impregnate... :thumbsup:
     
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    Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. - Albert Einstein in a letter to Phyllis, a child asking about his religious beliefs

    Many people don’t realize that science basically involves assumptions and faith. Wonderful things in both science and religion come from our efforts based on observations, thoughtful assumptions, faith and logic. (With the findings of modern physics, it) seems extremely unlikely (that the existence of life and humanity are ) just accidental.” – Charles Townes, Nobel Laureate and Professor of Physics at UC Berkeley

    “It seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life and the universe, one must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious…. I find a need for God in the universe and in my own life.” - Arthur L. Schawlow, Professor of Physics at Stanford University, winner of the Nobel Prize in physics, believes that new scientific discoveries provide compelling evidence for a personal God.

    “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind.” ― Max Planck

    "Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God." - James Tour, Professor of Biochemistry, Rice University

    There is a kind of religion in science; it is the religion of a person who believes there is order and harmony in the Universe…This religious faith of the scientist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not valid, and as a product of forces or circumstances we cannot discover. When that happens, the scientist has lost control. If he really examined the implications, he would be traumatized. - Robert Jastrow

    For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been waiting there for centuries. - Robert Jastrow

    “Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act of creation to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover. That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.” ― Robert Jastrow

    “There is no doubt that a parallel exists between the big bang as an event and the Christian notion of creation from nothing.” - Nobel Prize winner George Smoot

    “To me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance.” - Michio Kaku, theoretical physicist
     
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    Well since Atheists believe that the God who created Satan does not exist, They believe that God's creation, Satan, does not exist either.
     
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    You don't have to assume when you know, as does everyone with any affinity for science.
     
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    There is no order and harmony in the universe. Everything is chaotically smashing into everything else eventually.
     
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    lol
     
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    First present your evidence for Unicorns and the Easter Bunny.
     
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    Didn’t think you could that the Unicorn or Easter Bunny don’t exist. And just is proving any evidence for their existence that I could supply would not be proving they don’t exist.
     
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    If you listened to the recording it said that atheists are becoming a lower percentage of the world’s population.That should be obvious since breeding rates are the highest amongst the undereducated and the poor.
     
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    Dodge noted.
     
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    Sorry not a dodge. Asked you to prove something and you cannot. Let me try again. Prove that the Easter Bunny and Unicorns don’t exist. No different from asking someone to prove god doesn’t exist.

    Youe dodge was going to be refuting whatever evidence I would supply to show that the Easter Bunny or Unicorns that I would be so foolish as to provide allowing you to divert from what you claimed you could prove.
     
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    There are libraries written by some of the greatest minds of the last two millenia on the existence of God, where is your corresponding evidence for the Easter Bunny and Unicorns?

    For the record, I don't claim to be able to 'prove' God exists, just like you can't prove He doesn't, but I think the evidence makes it much more likely than not that He does exist.
     
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    But..... some people with a fascinating story about their past
    claim that a lot of people meet with fallen angels in higher invisible dimensions and......
    that these demons tell their best servants to claim to be Atheists........
    and make fun of people who attempt to follow the Creator.







    https://johnramirez.org/about/bio
     
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    Hear, hear!
     

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