McConnell vows to acquit Trump, even though the evidence has not even been presented.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    A new ad by McConnell is aimed at raising money by promising to acquit Trump in the Senate.

    We have always known, of course, that Republicans in the Senate would place their partisan loyalty before loyalty to the Constitution. But now we have McConnell confessing it on tape.

    McConnell: "The way that impeachment stops is with a Senate majority with me as Majority Leader,”

    So when the Senate ignore all the evidence and vote to acquit Trump, Republicans will say "See? His acquittal in the Senate proves that he was innocent!" That's going to be the talking point. And we will say "No. This was pre-cooked an pre-arranged months ago, before any evidence was even presented"

    Just so you know, I will tag this post as proof of my prediction. So pay attention if you are planning on using the above talking point.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mc...ect-trump-against-pelosi-in-impeachment-fight
     
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    And the Democrats vowed to impeach Trump befor the evidence was presented.
     
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    It's been three years of nothing burgers. People have lost patience with this bullshet.

    There's an election coming up soon to settle it.
     
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    I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm always lecturing Americans on being too obsessed with the next election, but this time it cannot come soon enough.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Except that it has! Trump kindly made it available...first in writing... now on tape.

    And, of course, there's the Mueller Report....
     
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    I guess you skipped past all the partisan loyalty and chicanery by the house democrats right? Ill take 1,000 McConnels you can have all the
    Alexandria Ocasio Cortezs, Talibs, and Omars and Maxines and the most lying and disgusting of all Adam Schitt and keep them all you self
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Partisanship is fine. It's part of our Democracy. What is not fine is placing partisanship above the Constitution. Which is what McConnell and Trump loyalists are doing. They have lost all credibility when talking about patriotism or the Constitution.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So in your copy of the Constitution the remedy for High Crimes and Misdemeanours is to wait for the next election?

    In a Democratic country, allowing leaders to abuse power is not subject to popular vote.
     
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    Lib logic 101
    No evidence, must impeach
    Gop logic 101
    No evidence must not impeach

    Which one is correct?
     
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    Maybe you aught to vote on opening impeachment proceedings
     
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    Good for Mitch. He's got a few Senate rinos he needs to reign in, one a very pompous one, but at least he's setting the right target.
     
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    So in your copy of the Constitution, a High Crime is a phone call to a foreign leader?
     
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    Congratulations, what I put in bold letters is a superb description of what the House Dems have been doing all along. I couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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    Absolutely now what you meant. And I responded correctly. The evidence has been available at a minimum since the Mueller Report came out. Tough I would say it was out way before that.
    I have never seen anybody call Trump a horse, but yeah.... Trump's presidency is dead.

    I couldn't care less how it started. Only thing I care about is how it ended. Which just happened to be with Trump beeing a proven criminal.
     
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    LOL, democrat avow to impeach Trump even though the evidence has not been presented yet. But hey, no one ever said democrats weren't hypocrites.
     
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    Yes!!!!!!

    A phone call to extort a foreign leader to obtain a thing of value about their opponent under the threat of withholding funds that Congress had already appropriated is most definitely a High Crime.

    You ask as if there were some sort of "doubt" in your mind about something so obvious.
     
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    Do you understand what impeachment is? Obviously not. So let me explain it to you. It's the part of the process where the evidence is gathered and presented.

    There is no other way to formally present the evidence other than during impeachment.

    I'm curious. What did you think "impeachment" was?
     
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    If they have, they have not been as stupid as McConnell to do it on tape.

    In any case, the evidence to remove Trump has been public ... at least since the Mueller report was out (I would say way before that). The decision to acquit Trump is the only one that has been pre-cooked with no basis.
     
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    Two words: Mueller Report.
     
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    You mean like how the Democrats started an impeachment inquiry due to Ukraine before anything was even released? Like so many say...impeachment is a political process, not a court process. Evidence doesn't matter to either side.
     
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    Yes! Because that's the way things are released! Somebody "inquires". What did you think the word "inquiry" means?

    I'm surprised at how nobody on the Trump side seems to know the meaning of the word "impeachment". I know about all the statistics and polls comparing education level with support for Trump. But they better look up the meaning quick, because their idol is in the middle of one.
     
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    Actually there doesn't need to be an inquiry in the impeachment process. There just needs to be charges against the President or other office holders that an impeachment process can be used against, the charges must be brought forth by the House of Representatives, and the trial must be held by the Senate. There was no inquiry in Andrew Johnsons impeachment process for instance. Further more Impeachment alone does not remove a President. It is simply the process to bring forth charges. It is the trial by the Senate that removes the President. And even then it does not convict of any crimes. In a way its like a Grand Jury in that they weigh the evidence and decide if there is sufficient reason to believe that the charges are reasonable. If they believe that the charges are reasonable then they remove the President from office. If not then they don't remove.

    I know more about the impeachment process than you think.

    And fyi, there was no impeachment inquiry when it came to the Russian collusion hoax. Yet plenty of things were still released. You don't need an impeachment inquiry to get things released. Or didn't you know that? Yet the Democrats still went with it on nothing more than what was being reported by the media. They could have very easily investigated it before hollering for an impeachment inquiry. You know that. I know that. So don't try and make lame excuses.

    Put simply Democrats are looking for ANY excuse to impeach Trump. Doesn't matter to them if there is any validity to their claims. And they've been hollering for it since the day Trump was elected. Quite literally. Many Democrats even campaigned for 2018 on the promise that they would impeach Trump.
     
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    If my other post was to long for you to read I'll put it simply here for you.

    Since when does any investigation into a President require an impeachment process to get things released? Oh right...it doesn't.
     
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    Then the evidence has not been presented as you have said it has in post 5.
     
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    There isn't. It's just "branding". The Impeachment process started months ago, right after the Mueller Report. When Nadler started issuing subpoenaed.

    Happy to have been the one that encouraged you to research it.

    That's correct. All you need is either a President who is innocent, or an Attorney General (or Special Prosecutor) who is not complicit.

    We don't have either anymore. The Mueller Report provided definite proof that Trump abused power, and a roadmap to impeachment. But now it's up to Congress to uphold the Constitution.
     
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