New Poll Shows 20-Point Increase in Support for Impeachment Inquiry—Among Republicans

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  1. dairyair

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    I heard on radio today, that 1 scandal is bad and will consume peoples attention. But 1000 scandals is confusing and may play into his hands. Especially gullibles.
     
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    I said some think he can.
    And what fiasco?
     
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    There is zero reason to rush any impeachment.
    I don't think they even need to vote on it. And don't do it, unless Senate gets behind it.
     
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    Never know what charges will stick. Makes sense to gather all the evidence. If a murderer confesses, they still search his house
     
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    So now all these things that we were told were Impeachment worthy all of the sudden might not be?

    If a murder confesses do they keep letting him roam free to murder more people?
     
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    Do you really think that the politicians will actually ask their constituents? Or do they simply go by polls both internal and external?

    Yes, he's accused of that, but Pelosi also said that he was putting our national security at risk.
     
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    Yep. :shrug:
     
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    They are still, but they want as convincing a case as possible. Just because it’s worthy of impeachment, doesn’t mean it’s enough to get his own party on board. Just look at Clinton.
     
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    You honestly think this is about getting Republican Senators on board? Not a chance and this is about holding the cloud of impeachment over Trump as long into election season as possible
     
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    It’s trump who is slowing it down!
     
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    I support impeachment. Lets get this show on the road. I'm sick of these partisan hacks using a willing media to get away with lying to the American public. I wanna see what these jerkasses have to say under oath. Lets stop Fing around.
     
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    :roflol:

    Your BLOTUS just added another Obstruction of Justice charge to his impeachment!

    :roflol:
     
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    The Roberts court already has an appalling track record so if it sides with your BLOTUS that will be a massive hurdle to overcome in 2020.

    Add to that the SCOTUS voting against Abortion and your BLOTUS will be toast in 2020.

    IOW's be careful what you wish for.

    Your BLOTUS actually stands a better chance of acquittal in the Senate and can then play the martyr role in 2020.

    If he hides behind the skirts of Kavanaugh and Gorsuchs then he will just motivate the largest voting bloc in the nation to throw him out of the Oval office.
     
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    There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates HOW the House goes about formulating the Articles of Impeachment. The only requirement is that the entire House gets to vote on the Articles AFTER they have been formulated.

    If you want to use PRECEDENT then I recommend that you check how the Articles of Impeachment were drafted for Nixon and Clinton. You will discover that they were done by the House Judiciary Committee in both instances.

    So why was that process acceptable for impeaching Clinton but not your BLOTUS?
     
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    Its very important that we remain impeccable about our wording here. Supporting impeachment is very different from supporting a committee probe into impeachment. Those who support impeachment or removal absent a thorough investigation and thorough debate are no better than those who oppose impeachment or removal absent a thorough investigation and thorough debate.

    sloppy wording on either side is going to be disastrous. We need to know who is prejudging the case, and who is not.
     
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    Supe
    Super , get a set and vote.
     
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    Yes, there is a fine distinction and if you read through the linked thread you would have seen quotes from the Dems where they are specific in stipulating that they support the Impeachment INQUIRY at this stage. That gives them wiggle room if the findings are insufficient to support a vote on Articles of Impeachment drafted by the House Judiciary committee at some point in the future.

    The Clinton impeachment failed because it never reached the point where there was bipartisan support for it. The ENTRAPMENT by Starr was enough to provide reasonable doubt and he was acquitted.

    With the BLOTUS the bar for the Republicans is higher than it is for the Dems. That said former Senator Jeff Flake has said that if the vote to impeachment was by secret ballot there were be 35 Republican Senators who would support it.

    This is why the political implications and ramifications of Impeachment are as important are the charges themselves. There are some politicians who will ignore evidence of a crime for political expediency and others who will put the nation ahead of their own personal political careers.

    I am sure that the party whips are counting heads on a daily basis so as to know exactly where they stand and what to say.
     
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    You might want to look at SCOTUS rulings regarding Watergate - not to mention the timeline between the impeachment inquiry actually beginning and the House voting on making the process official. If we follow their example and timeline, the House wouldn't even vote on making the inquiry official until January 2020, even though the impeachment inquiry began in October, and still be chugging along without voting on actual articles of impeachment in August 2020. History and reality ain't on your side.

    I do like your optimism, though... :applause:
     
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    Funny, all the Conservatives I know are disgusted with this BS. Not a single one has gotten behind it. Keep listening to polls, like 2016.
     
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    Sooner or later, the day comes when you can't hide from the things that you've done anymore.
     
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    Sucks to be a Democrat Official then.
     
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    Then there should be no more delay in voting to proceed with a formal inquiry and do away with the current dog and pony show.
     
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    You might want to look at Watergate - particularly the timeline between the impeachment inquiry actually beginning and the House voting on making the process official. If we follow their example and timeline, the House wouldn't even vote on making the inquiry official until January 2020, even though the impeachment inquiry began in October, and still be chugging along without voting on actual articles of impeachment in August 2020. History and reality ain't on your side.
     
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    There is no need to vote on a "formal inquiry" at this preliminary stage of the proceedings.
     
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