Same sex marriage

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by WAN, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What, so you agree with a PART of it?
     
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    Well it should be that government is superfluous.

    I know this is going to confuse you again
     
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    It's called common law marriage. The number is irrelevant to the truth value of my assertion.
    Yes it is. Husband and wife each have a legitimate expectation of performance from the other pursuant to the covenant, but the gov't has none whatsoever.
    It is not federal law in the US, but it is countenanced by any jurisdiction which presumes to codify it into law.
     
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    Common law is government certification.

    If it's law it's government recognition.
     
  5. chris155au

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    So it's still recognised in law then.

    So then your problem is with the word "contract." I thought that you were saying that the government never got involved in marriage.

    What is Obergefel if not federal law which mandates that states must recognise same sex marriage?
     
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    And yet you got the government involved in your marriage.
     
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    I can't change the world all I can do is live in it.
     
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    In some states, yes.
    A court ruling, which wouldn't qualify as law under the Constitution even if it didn't flout the Constitution.
     
  9. chris155au

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    How is Common LAW marriage not recognised in LAW by every state?

    Well it is effective law isn't it? Otherwise, why hasn't any state challenged it?
     
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    And why does that mean that you had no choice but to get the government involved in your marriage/relationship?
     
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    It's the only way I can get married.
     
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    Which IS the government getting involved, nothing else.
     
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    The government has involved itself I'm one man I can't change that.
     
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    What do you mean the government has involved itself? YOU involved them!
     
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    In marriage. You can't get married without them, they hold the Monopoly
     
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    There's no REASON to get married unless you want to involve the government!
     
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    Sure.
     
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    Which you are AGAINST! Unbelievable!
     
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    Yeah again I'm not the ruler of the world I just love in it.
     
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    No state is obligated to do so. As far as that goes, no state is obligated to make any laws regarding marriage.
     
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    Common law marriage IS marriage that is recognised by law by the state, right?
     
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    And that means you must get married?
     
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    No it means I decided to. My reasons are my own.
     
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    If a common law marriage is consummated in a state that recognizes it, and the couple moves to a state that does not, does that annul the marriage?
     
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    Exactly, you decided to get the government involved, even though you don't think that the government should be involved. That really makes a lot of sense.
     

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