The reality of no-deal Brexit can no longer be distorted

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by LafayetteBis, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,027
    Likes Received:
    6,322
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ....and the lottery numbers!
     
  2. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Messages:
    11,951
    Likes Received:
    7,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    So looks like some of the Remainder MP's were conspiring with the EU, no wonder the government couldn't deliver Brexit, if you are working towards sabotage you're obviously not going to carry out the job the people expect you to do.
     
    allegoricalfact likes this.
  3. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Let's see the proof-positive of that accusation, please ...
     
  4. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Messages:
    11,951
    Likes Received:
    7,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Well it's not an accusation... I'm remarking on reports this morning.. let's see... I saw it on You Tube, but here it is in The Sun also

    FOREIGN PLOT'
    No10 launches probe into Remainers who ‘colluded with France and EU’ to write Brexit Surrender Act as MPs ‘plot for Bercow to bypass PM’
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/10027246/brexit-downing-street-probe-collusion-france-eu/
     
  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The "Sun"?!? Oh mah gawd - are you ever reaching far for nonsense!

    The Brexiteers (of which notably the Sun) are playing with historical inexactitude. They are trying to blame Brussels for the delay in Brexit.

    Brussels has only applied the rules for any country that wishes to exit. It's the UK that has been dithering! Just like much or the Brit rabble-press have manipulated readers ever since the initial vote itself.

    In fact, I am all for Brexit! It's a marvelous way to show the rest of the European Union how consummately stoopid it is to turn-away from a market-economy that bolsters Demand, which creates export-jobs!

    Britain's economy has already started to contract. That movement will continue for another good two or three years, whilst UK-unemployment blossoms!

    No company, for instance, that produces cars in the UK today will ever return once it has moved into the EU to avoid import-taxation. Duhhhhhhhh ...
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
    David Landbrecht likes this.
  6. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Messages:
    11,951
    Likes Received:
    7,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Maybe... we'll soon find out... there either is an investigation or there is not. However you're dismissing it because it doesn't suit you... that is wholly irrational...as is your rant

     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
  7. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Brexit has at least proved to the world that the English capacity for producing humor did not die with "Monty Python".
     
    gnoib and scarlet witch like this.
  8. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Time will tell. Time will tell ...
     
  9. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Current events around the world underline a dramatic reality; the populations of the most influential nations are incapable of controlling their governments and doing what is best for the people and the human race.
    The Brexit situation is perhaps the most risible.
    The greatest impediment to resolution is the very most fundamental element, the one that was obvious from even before the folly of leaving was voted on; the border with Ireland. Yet, the Brits proceeded as if blissfully unaware of the folly of their own making.
    That is not to say that things are much less laughable/lamentable elsewhere. Somehow, though, the Brexit thing is so sublimely absurd that we have to give the English credit. Gilbert and Sullivan would be proud of their progeny.
     
  10. Boosewell

    Boosewell Active Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2019
    Messages:
    260
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Not really. The greatest impediment to resolution is the fact that for once in his life Wurzel has decided that he doesn't like losing.One would have expected Corbyn to have submitted and won a vote of no confidence in the government and thus caused a general election in which the Labour party would have gone down into the glorious defeat that Jeremy knows and loves so well. Then Boris could have declared a no deal Brexit and all would be well.

    Instead old Turnip bonce has had a glimmer of common sense and will try to keep the Tories in power until the election in 2022. I can't see it working. Jo Swinton and Wee Krankie are riding high in the polls and will probably drop the Labour party as soon as they can. But it might delay Brexit for a bit.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
  11. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Way I see it is;
    The EU wants the UK to have what I see as a blatant EU first deal and the PM is said to want an America first deal;
    Seems any UK first deals died in 1973, so since it's either EU first or America first, I'm going to side with a country that adopted UK's Magna Carta and is said to be a special friend of the UK since we both have freedom of speech and the rights of minorities over the hostile customs kabbalah of ex Soviet, Republic, ex Franco Fascism, ex German third Reich imperial power current German economic power no freedom of speech, rights of the majority EU for EU's sake views America as a competitor and possible enemy minded unelected by the people power hungry dependent on the EU for their own histories and futures sake.

    When people say the EU's needed to keep the peace, that is true, for other EU countries, not all of them, but, there are countries with different, sad, tragic, self induced reasons to need this EU; UK's not one of them. I do not want our economy heavily invested in such a mindset - any business that hasn't planned for Brexit now is really on them, since it's been extended and I know uncertainty is annoying to say the least, and believe me, my heart, and I have a heart, does go out to you; but if you haven't planned on Brexit yet and are dependent on the EU, since 2016, 'what were you think?!' A business model based on trade with the EU knowing full well it will be out of date in the event of a no deal Brexit day.
    If you haven't adapted and sink, it's on you.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2019
    scarlet witch likes this.
  12. David Landbrecht

    David Landbrecht Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2018
    Messages:
    2,029
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No deal seems possible before the decided date.
     
  13. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    8,386
    Likes Received:
    1,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    let’s be clear, they voted for a utopian fantasy that was falsely marketed and sold to them. But every choice has consequences..... which are becoming increasingly apparent as they struggle turning the fantasy into reality
     
    gnoib likes this.
  14. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is shameful that Labor should be led by a fundamentalist Socialist like Corbyn. Goodness is he wayyyyy out-of-date.

    British Labor must move back to the Center-Left or it will end up in a Political WC. The Social Democrats will pluck those most centralist in their thinking from within the party. And that will not leave very many left.

    Who can all go off and cry-in-their-beer whining about the good-old-days ...
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
  15. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Female
    The opposition have refused us a General Election to find out whether we would vote for a Tory Gov or not.
     
  16. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Female
    No, we did not. We voted Leave because we realised a long time ago that we are going down the wrong road - driving in the wrong direction.

    Not that we were asked in the first place but if one can change one's mind why can't a nation change its?
     
  17. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Female
    Absolutely - So watch the Remoaners in Parliament now. With the help of Bercow they will draft a bill to revoke Art 50 --- it really is no new treaty ( no deal) or remain now. A cliff hanger!
     
  18. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    5,457
    Likes Received:
    4,083
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What a nonsense
     
  19. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,027
    Likes Received:
    6,322
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    well indeed Punxsutawney Bis....so unlike your projections and prognostication based upon infinite clairvoyent insight (as you would have having hacked God's iPhone!) and yet with all this incredible ability to absolutely state the future with startling clarity and accuracy you still haven't given me the numbers for the Euro Millions....why is this?

    What's the weather going to be like next Friday afternoon in Bristol?
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
  20. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender:
    Female
    LibDems openly wrote a letter to Junker telling him not to negotiate with Boris.
     
  21. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What was nonsense? Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's nonsense; why would the UK need the EU? The 60's were swinging and some murderers where swinging too, by their broken necks off of some gallows. The rest of Europe? Hardily the land of milk and honey and rights and freedoms, and why should UK care for German Economic Power in this EU club when it didn't care for the Third Reich in WWII? Why should UK turn it's back on USA who adopted our Magna Carta?
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
  22. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And, so what?

    The LibDems would like to negotiate another "poll". It make sense not to have any discussions with Brussels about "Brexit" whist they try to get a majority vote in the British parliament for new elections. Which they just MIGHT be able to win if sought along with Labor.

    Which would have them running the country when Labor and the Conservatives have amply shown they are incapable of doing ...
     
  23. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's unlikely that the the LibDems and Labor would win any reelection vote today.

    Britain is deeply in the economic-shat it so richly deserves having listened two years ago to the Brexit siren-song ...
     
  24. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Good luck to Britain whilst on the arduous Road to Economic Reality!

    For all the British admiration of a consolidated-in-population American Economy, you (plural) seem fittingly berserk to refuse it when the EU-version was offered to you.

    Time will tell the error of your mistake ...
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2019
  25. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2016
    Messages:
    9,744
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I for one think they are going to succeed. Boris-the-Villain is seeking a political-career that he could not otherwise have without Brexit.

    The man is sick, sick, sick in the head. Which is why he gets along so very well with Donald Dork ...
     

Share This Page