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Trump is on his way to an easy win in 2020, according to Moody’s accurate election model

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they are, because they know Trump and the GOP have them whipped on the economy. Democrats have NOTHING to run on.

    LOL - They didn't save squat, Obama's economic ranking is in the bottom five of all time (1.48% average annual GDP growth) and left Trump with an anemic economy struggling at 1.49% in 2016. If Obama had done so well with the economy Clinton, not Trump, would be running for re-election this year.

    Pro-growth policies count and the positive results are all around us, whether you want to see past your partisan blinkers or not.

    As for confidence, yes, that counts too, and when it came to the economy Obama & the Dems were confidence killers with their adversarial relationship towards business and investors and their never-ending calls for more government, more tax hikes, more mandates and more regulations.
     
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  2. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Why? You always vote for your pocketbook. You just want it filled from everybody else's
     
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  3. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    I hear ya the economy is a very nuanced thing but do you really think your average American is gonna look further than "hey I got more money now under Trump"?
     
    TurnerAshby, Oct 15, 2019
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, Moody's is on a real hot streak...

    From your link....

    SNIP
    The Moody’s models have been backtested to 1980 and were correct each time — except in 2016, when it indicated Clinton would get a narrow victory.
    ENDSNIP

    Welcome back, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania!! Maybe throw in an Arizona or Iowa for fun...

    I got a nice tax refund this year.... Still won't support a criminal for President and I spit on anybody who does....
     
    Egoboy, Oct 15, 2019
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    Didn't they project Hillary as the winner in our last presidential election?????
     
    61falcon, Oct 15, 2019
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  6. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    I bet he'd of been held responsible by the average American though
     
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  7. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    "and I spit on anybody who does...."


    Seems a little harsh, there's already a decent portion of Trump voters who are voting for Trump because he's the closet to their policies and he'll appoint judges who view the Constitution in a manner more closely with how they view it.

    I don't agree with you most times but I appreciate your views and wouldn't think to spit on you for viewing policy in a different manner than me. That's what makes America so great that were wer allowed to have or different views and at the end of the day we can still work together. Presidents come presidents go there's no need to flip out of fellow Americans
     
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  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, I've never spit on anybody in my life, so maybe a little hyperbole on my end...

    But I will flip them the bird... that I have no problem with...

    But spitting sounded better.... thought I could get Biden an additional 100K votes across several states with my threat... :)
     
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    How much do you pay someone to shave yer goiter?
     
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  10. Moonglow

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    I never vote for incumbents I believe in term limits.
     
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    Im watching the democrat debate-they are saying they need to impeach Trump to bring America together.

    Lol.
     
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    Don’t like roads, libraries, parks and such I see.
     
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  13. MolonLabe2009

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    Over 60% of total Federal spending is spent on social programs (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare, Welfare, etc.).

    "Roads, libraries, parks and such" consume a fraction total Federal spending.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 15, 2019
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    That may be true of investors on Wall Street, but the average person is not considering "confidence" when making purchases for their needs and wants. For those everyday transactions the president is irrelevant. The economy that people feel in their daily lives, people that don't exist at the upper echelon of the economic movers and shakers, is not driven by the president. Trump has nothing to do with them.
     
    Junkieturtle, Oct 16, 2019
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    If I remember correctly back in 2016 they forecast an easy win for Hilary. 8)
     
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    Having a job creates confidence
     
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    It certainly gives you spending power. But you having the job is not the result of the president, with the exception of maybe working for his administration or working directly or indirectly for any companies that person may own or use for his businesses. The Trump businesses certainly employ people in this country, but it's a miniscule fraction of the total workforce.
     
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    So it's not "the economy stupid?"
     
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    While there are many out there that follow the Stalinist party lines and fall for things like parody, instead of facts, who will no doubt vote against their interest and put party over politics...most won’t, and trump is a lock
     
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    Your kidding right ? Obama didn't save the economy ?

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    Are you sure ? The trajectory started WELL before Trump ;)
     
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  21. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats a right wing talking point that has absolutely no merit

    Trump is such a dumpster fire, that he may not win even in this economy !
     
    grapeape, Oct 16, 2019
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    If you remove social security as it is an insurance — not a social program — the largest federal line item is the military plus its related costs (VA, healthcare reimbursement, pensions, ect)
     
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    True, the left will vote out of hate just to torpedo their own pocket books.
     
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    No, my pocketbook is not worth the destruction of this country
     
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    Yes they are. In all studied, they wait for big purchases when they have confidence that the overall economy is doing well.

    This shouldn't be a discussion. I have sat in front of dozen plus Econ Professors and they all concur on that point.
     
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