Trump Doral resort to host G-7 summit — sparking yet another ethics fight for the White House

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  1. Nemesis

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    "too".

    A swing and a miss.
     
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    Flowing into Trump's pockets.
     
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    Does that money flow into trump's pocket?

    Then ****ing yes, it is a conflict of interest.
     
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    Wonder if it can be traced back to something he saw on Fox News. They’ve been pretty consistent policy advisors for this administration.
     
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    The sales taxes, bed taxes, money spent on hookers, money spent on food and booze don't flow into Trump's pockets.
     
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    So do autobiographies written while in office, hence no impeachable offense. So do first ladies giving speeches, hence no impeachment. I surely hope you don't think that Dem President's somehow come into office broke yet somehow leave rich is because of a money tree on the lawn of the Whitehouse, hence no impeachment. I mean if your for no president ever making anything but what they earn by their salary then ok we can talk about that but if not you have no argument.
     
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  7. Nemesis

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    Err, what's so difficult to understand about the money flowing into Bonespurs' crooked pockets? You think the country is getting some sort of benefit that it wouldn't get if he wasn't self-dealing and violating the emoluments clause?
     
  8. Nemesis

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    We'd have the same benefit if the event was held at a different place.
     
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    Sounds like we’d pay twice as much for the same benefit.... that’s.... idiotic.
     
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    Trump could shoot someone dead on 5th Ave, and the GOP wouldn't care.
     
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    Sorry, Presidents and First ladies are not allowed to charge speaking fees while in office. Autobiographies have been commissioned by US publishers - so no emolument problems. Obamas made all their money on book sales written and published before office and speaking fees, book publishing fees and Netflix contract after office. Your "what-about-ism" is a bust.
     
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  12. Daniel Light

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    Would Jimmy Carter have gotten away with saying, "I'm going to charge the government 1/2 price on my peanuts, but they can only buy my peanuts..."

    Right ... you bet-cha.
     
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    No, because the people running his stuff sucked big time and he almost lost the farm.

    Do you remember Billy Beer?
     
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  14. Daniel Light

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    The Republicans made him put that farm in a blind trust. Funny how Trump just gets away with things - it's that whole Kardashian President thing.
     
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    Is it really your considered opinion that Congress has a sense of morals?

    Seriously?

    I mean, you're pulling my leg, right?
     
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    And will do so at cost saving the taxpayer money.

    "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

    How does it violate the emolument clause especially doing so at cost? It's not a present, it is not payment for work, it is not an office or title. The property is renting them rooms. I slept in a hotel last night, I didn't employ them I bought something.
     
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  17. Daniel Light

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    Congress has over-sight responsibility. Unless you think that legally elected members of Congress should have the powers given to them by the Constitution.
     
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    The Republicans didn't make him do so he did so freely on his own and he came within a skin of his teeth losing it. No one serving as President should be forced into something like.

    "Before Jimmy Carter was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 1977, he announced a broad set of rules meant to dictate the behavior of administration officials. After all, he was the first president elected in the post-Watergate era, and scrutiny of presidential ethics was robust.

    "According to the plan announced today," The New York Times reported, "Mr. Carter will sell all his personal stock, divert the royalties from his autobiography, 'Why Not the Best?' into a foundation that will establish a future library to house Presidential papers, and transfer to the trust his interest in Carter's Warehouse and Carter Farms Inc."

    "The intent of this plan, Mr. Carter told reporters this morning," the report continued, "is to insure that 'whatever happens here in Plains, based on my decisions concerning agriculture, will not affect my income one way or the other.' "

    It didn't take long for the administration to face ethics questions, however. Carter's nominee to serve as the head of the Office of Management and Budget was Bert Lance, an adviser to his campaign - and the president of the bank that gave Carter's company that large loan. Lance resigned under an ethics cloud that September, facing questions about his management of the bank."
    https://www.inforum.com/opinion/460...m-is-more-complicated-than-you-may-have-heard
     
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  19. Daniel Light

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    Do you absolutely promise that the rooms will be rented at cost? Who gets to decide that cost? Is the cost based on paying of Trump's mortgage on the property?
     
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    On their cost to rent the rooms. Heck George Washington and Thomas Jefferson sold tobacco to foreigners for PROFIT, were they charged with violations of the emoluments clause?
     
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    And how many of Trump's appointments have had to resign under ethics violations?
     
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    Nope....Only Trump has the best strippers, whores, and children attending his exclusive parties!
    To bad the old party planner died in jail....Missed it by that much!!!
     
  23. Daniel Light

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    We'll find out. There are three lawsuits running through the courts right now claiming Trump has violated the Emoluments Clause. This is a good one for the Supreme Court. Considering more Presidential Candidates are business owners, it's something that needs to be decided.
     
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    Sure.

    But do you really admire their moral rectitude so much that you trust them to make moral judgments?

    Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors, not high sins and peccadilloes.

    Graft is the graphite of politics. How else does anything get done?
     
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    So for you it's no lines drawn on ethics unless what? Anything?
     

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