No personal days?

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  1. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

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    Most were mom and pop.

    When i started at the cabinet shop i was one of 5 employees. Now the business employs a hundred or more people making millions.
    Awesome company run by great people shoulda stayed there.

    The last company i worked for was a great company too. I was there for 3 months and because the company was doing so well he gave me a paid week off specifically to go fishing. It's the only place i ever felt overpaid.
     
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    Twenty seven years self-employed; my business has evolved greatly from what it was when I started out. Had one vacation that didn't involve visiting family in all those years. If I take more than a week out of my office, I have to plan it months in adavanced to be sure to give notice to my clients. I have, however, finally established days I'm not in the office, so I can technically take a three day weekend whenever I want. Now pushing it to a optional Tues off too.
     
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    What's a personal day ???

    Is it a millennial snowflake thing like a 24 hour safe space ?
     
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    Yeah now new fathers get maternity leave??

    Right when he should be doubling down at work to provide for his new family...
     
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    You eat pizza twice a week ?

    I wish I could do that without becoming a Pillsbury Doughboy.
     
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    You don't have to order an extra large and eat it in a single meal...
     
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    I love the smell of cold pizza in the morning.
     
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    I don't give business to companies I feel do not treat their employees fairly.
     
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    Me too... And it shows :)
     
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    It's not the size of the company, it's the nature of the work. Bottom-tier restaurant workers are basically considered drones, and they're not going to be offered benefits, because they're easily replaced.

    80% of restaurant jobs don't even offer sick days, let alone personal days.

    Chipotle grants their workers sick days, but only because they had a rash of food poisoning outbreaks, and they discovered that many of their employees would come to work sick, because no work, no pay.
     
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    Oh yeah, back when I was 16 and worked fast food we got 6 months a year paid vacation.
     
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    If you consider not granting employees PTO to be unfair, then that means you never step foot in any fast food restaurant in America then, right?
     
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    Not granting personal days is not 'unfair'. But for those who do, I suggest they not give them any business.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Most big chain, non fast food, have unions here (TUAC). It's the smaller fast food chain that don't.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    I agree with you 100%. That said, being a pizza server is an hourly wage type job, which has different rules/norms.

    Is this a local or national place?
     
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    Well, in many industries, there are no longer "vacation" and "sick" days, only personal days.
     
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    Sounds like your choice.
     
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    yeah.. I like eating.. even if it is only frijoles and tortillas.
     
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    During my pre-retirement days, I had one hard-and-fast rule: I simply would not work for a company--any company--if I thought that I needed them more than they needed me.

    And I mean as a specific person--not merely as a job position.

    (Oh, and for the record: I have only a high-school education.)
     
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    Well, "6 months a year" would be a bit much. But at the last job that I had, pre-retirement--I worked there close to 17 years--I did receive four weeks of paid vacation each year. (That is in addition to the paid personal days.)

    Besides, the person about whom I am speaking is more than double the age of "16."
     
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    It is a national chain.
     
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    If the person is in their late 30's and working an entry level job, the problem isn't the pizza delivery business.
     
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    To be more precise, she is 33.

    And she does not "deliver" pizzas; she is a server in the restaurant.
     
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    Either way.

    Entry level jobs are for entry level skills. If one is 33 and still only has entry level skills, then you've identified the problem.

    Did servers in the 70's, 80's, or 90's get paid vacation? They didn't when I was working my first jobs.
     

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