Reflecting on abortion <<Moderator's Warning >>

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    If that was true (which it couldn't be in every situation), that would make her of more value :)
     
  2. chris155au

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    Practical value, not moral value.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    LOL, another "duck and run and change the words"".....you said "value"....you didn't say " moral value"




    And, BTW, what TF is "moral value" ?
     
  4. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So they are of unequal value.
     
  5. Moonglow

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    Abortion is no worse than the diseases and evil God created to kill humans..
     
  6. Renee

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    so god is a sadist!
     
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  7. chris155au

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    As in they are not equally a human life?
     
  8. chris155au

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    You're only asking what moral value is but not what practical value is. Does that mean that you know what practical value is?
     
  9. chris155au

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    Well it wouldn't make her more of a human life.
     
  10. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    "all I have said is equal value at least at SOME point in the term!" A non-random choice over who will live involves a value judgment does it not?
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    Uh, no, first YOU said "value"...then when I responded YOU CHANGED IT TO "MORAL VALUE"

    :) Guess once again you had no answer so had to change things....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    If that was true (which it couldn't be in every situation), that would make her of more value :)



    ….that doesn't make sense ( I'm so shocked ;) )
     
  13. chris155au

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    Your question was, "what TF is "moral value."
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    And YOU could not answer:

    FoxHastings said:
    And, BTW, what TF is "moral value" ? """""""""""""""




    YOU:
     
  15. chris155au

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    But why did you say that I "changed it?"
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    Because you changed it from "value" to "moral value" duhhh..See posts # 772 and 777...


    And you still haven't answered : "what TF is "moral value." ?
     
  17. FoxHastings

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    If that was true (which it couldn't be in every situation), that would make her of more value :)
     
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    Obviously...………...
     
  20. edna kawabata

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    Yes Renee, I think they should start chain gangs for dead beat Dads and force restitution but making the unborn bare the consequences is a pretty sick option.
     
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    Renee, I'm wondering is their a compromise you would be willing to make? Would you outlaw abortions for convenience say after the 1st trimester? I have asked you why so many pro-aborts insist it is a womens right to butcher their baby up until the delivery date. You never answered so I assume you stand for that. However, you insist that most are done at a 1/10 of 1 oz. fetus. If we could limit all abortions for convenience to that level, I would feel a WHOLE lot better. Note: I don't address abortion to save the life of the mother.
     
  23. chris155au

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    It wouldn't make her any more of a human is what I mean.
     
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  24. chris155au

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    All it really requires is a common sense judgement. They are both equally human lives, but one has more significance.
     
  25. edna kawabata

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    DNA-wise equally human, but as you admit of unequal value.
     

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