Pregnant Florida mom uses AR-15 to kill home intruder

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  1. vman12

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    No, the majority of mass shooters definitely gained their firearms illegally, as most mass shootings are gang related in the first place.
     
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    No, I don't want her dead but God does he wants us all dead..
     
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    Please show evidence of that. In terms of what the public deems mass shootings, it's a mix of legal and illegal. For example, all of the following bought their guns legally: Parkland Shooter, Orlando Nightclub shooter, Las Vegas shooter, Virginia Tech shooter, Luby's shooter, El Paso Wal-Mart shooter, San Ysidro McDonald's shooter, UT tower shooter. That's most of the top ten mass shooters in the U.S. The only two of the top ten that got their guns illegally was the Sutherland Springs shooter and the Sandy Hook shooter.
     
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    In all these cases you'll find it was illegal for these people to purchase weapons.....the government just didn't do it's job and make sure they were entered in the system.

    The Parkland shooter was only able to acquire his weapon because they refused to arrest him. Parkland was the most preventable mass shooting in history.

    The Orlando Nightclub shooter.....how many FBI warnings did that one come with?

    Las Vegas shooter is the only exception of one that probably couldn't have been stopped. Funny how no one ever got to the bottom of that one though, huh?

    Virginia Tech shooter:

    The Virginia Tech Review Panel's August 2007 report (Massengill Report) devoted more than 20 pages to Cho's troubled history.[3]:21[83]:31–53 At three years of age, Cho was described as shy, frail, and wary of physical contact.[84] In eighth grade, Cho was diagnosed with severe depression as well as selective mutism, an anxiety disorder that inhibited him from speaking in certain situations and/or to specific people.[85][86] While early media reports carried reports by South Korean relatives that Cho had autism,[87][88] the Massengill Report stated that the relationship between selective mutism and autism was "unclear".[83]:34–35 Cho's family sought therapy for him, and he received help periodically throughout middle school and high school.[83]:34–39 Early reports also indicated Cho was bullied for speech difficulties in middle school, but the Virginia Tech Review Panel was unable to confirm this, or other reports that he was ostracized and mercilessly bullied for class-, height-, and race-related reasons in high school, causing some anti-bullying advocates to feel that the Review Panel was engaging in an authority-absolving whitewash.[89][90] Supposedly, high school officials had worked with his parents and mental health counselors to support Cho throughout his sophomore and junior years. Cho eventually chose to discontinue therapy. When he applied and was admitted to Virginia Tech, school officials did not report his speech and anxiety-related problems or special education status because of federal privacy laws that prohibit such disclosure unless a student requests special accommodation.[86]

    The Massengill Report detailed numerous incidents of aberrant behavior beginning in Cho's junior year of college that illustrated his deteriorating mental condition. Several former professors of Cho reported that his writing as well as his classroom behavior was disturbing, and he was encouraged to seek counseling.[91][92] He was also investigated by the university for stalking and harassing two female students.[16] In 2005, Cho had been declared mentally ill by a Virginia special justice and ordered to seek outpatient treatment.[93]


    The Luby Shooter also had a history of violence. The main problem that day was that the law prevented Suzanne Hupp from having her firearm on her instead of her vehicle.

    Same with the San Ysidro shooter who had an even longer history of violence and mental illness.

    Same with Whitman:

    In the months prior to the attack, Whitman had sought professional help for "overwhelming, violent impulses",[3] including fantasies about shooting people from the tower.[5] An autopsy conducted after his death revealed a hypothalamic tumor.[
     
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    if you are in your house.... accuracy should not be the issue
     
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    Those were with the failure of the system, however, since the systems failed, they were all legal buys.
     
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    If you're a small statured woman without much gun experience, it might be. It takes practice and experience to shoot a pistol accurately. Not so much with a rifle. That is why we issue soldiers rifles--because they are more effective and easier to shoot. A rifle is a weapon for everybody. A pistol is for people who dedicate their time to shooting it, even at close range.
     
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    Point is that the ar was sufficient, but not necessary
     
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    You seem to be grasping at straws

    fact is that all police armed with hand guns
    Including women officers
    And that would not be the case if such weapons were deemed to be inadequate
     
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    And most have an AR in the trunk. They only use handguns because they need a gun with them at every minute. A handgun is a gun for ease of carry.
     
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    Can't say that for sure. We don't know the pregnant woman's experience with weapons. If she isn't good with a pistol, it would have been next to impossible for her to shoot a man who was pistol whipping her husband.
     
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    No.

    They are all precluded by the law. Thus, they were illegal purchases.

    That they were unenforced doesn't make it legal.

    If you do 95 in a 25 today and don't get caught, it's still illegal.
     
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    Is that a Stalin quote?
     
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    Maybe you have never had to hit a moving target. Long guns are more accurate than pistols.

    The AR platform is commonly used by law enforcement.
     
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    Yeah, they could have scooped out that child and ran it down to Planned Parenthood and gotten top dollar.
    The MSM will ignore this story about a lady protecting her family, however, if the family all died because a criminal had an illegal gun they would have been asking for more background checks.
     
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    Funny I have seen lots of cops on the street, but none of them had an ar..... curious isn’t it

    by the way... this site does not even mention the ar
    https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/popular-guns-for-law-enforcement/
     
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    Ease of carry.... exactly
     
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    Other than informing us that AR15s are just as lethal as a kitchen knife, I'm not sure your point is.
     
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    I ask the same question when race is in the headline.
     
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    Serial killers do.
     
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    That hurt my brain reading that.
     
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    Why? What if the intruder spots you heading down stairs and they are in your main hallway and seek cover. Your best bet to shoot through the walls and hope for the best and also hope you don't waste your ammo or to retrieve cover or concealment, wait for your best shot, and use the settings around you?

    Can you give me your fire arms training background? Wondering how someone with such extensive knowledge would ask such ridiculous questions.

    Do you own and operate a training center? Can you please provide a link to it?
     
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    Lol read one post down- I saw the same thing and just posted about it.

    This radical has no idea how self defense works. Definitely has never written a risk assessment!
     
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