Smugglers Cut Doors Into Trump's Wall

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    1. Nothing to feel guilty about.

    It means, if you destroy our border wall to get in you should never be allowed in and it's not wrong to protect the border.
     
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    Hand outs aren't very helpful hands up are..
     
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    Obviously, the millions spent aren't enough under the circumstances.
    Evasive.
    They controlled Congress from 2002-2006, and 2010-2018.
     
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    That's fine, but what is this "fake progressive guilt" all about?
    I doubt the guys cutting the wire want in.
     
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    No, it isn't a war.
     
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    Then we should build a reinforced concrete border the entire length of the border and cut off all border crossing.
     
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    Meaning what in terms of U.S. aid to Central America?
     
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    They most certainly do complain about legals, just more privately because they don't have cause for complaint there, and know they'd be labeled racist.

    Saying it's about law is a dodge, an excuse to point fingers and not seem racist.

    And btw, many of those being detained and separeted from their children did, in fact, present themselves to border authorities in accordance with our laws.
     
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    Progressive guilt? Thats simply suggesting that we owe anything at all to people showing up at our border.
    If you feel we owe them. You have guilt about something and that guilt is unwarranted aka fake.
     
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    so they presented themselves LEGALLY after their parents ILLEGALLY crossed with them? Try harder!
     
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    We should be helping latin America built business and industry in order to builld employment and a wider spreading of wealth.
     
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    You're going to close the border? How about people on both sides of the border who want to visit the other country? What about trade?
     
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    Trump cut aid.
     
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    Only if they resist arrest, which is likely.
     
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    And that's a good thing. There has to be quid pro quo. But Robert's point was that "We should be helping latin America built business and industry in order to build employment and a wider spreading of wealth".

    That is spot on.

    I'd add that greater freedoms for the people would be essential.
     
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    Tough...
     
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    In America yes. But i have no problem dropping a 2000lb gbu on drug complexes in central and south America. They are a clear and present danger.
     
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    There doesn't have to be a quid pro quo, and no, it wasn't a good thing to cut aid. Congress has the power of the purse, not he President. Even the WH admitted that their legal basis for denying aid was on shaky ground.
     
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    Lol, no. That's the saddest "argument" and perhaps the most authoritarian argument yet.
     
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    Right,and that's why alternatives to the past failures are being suggested.
    Huh? It's true! You want others to climb your bs tree?
    Right, when Trump wasn't President and/or Paul Ryan was leader of the House. Different times, different leaders.
     
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    There has to be limits and guidelines on how foreign aid is used. If there are no such limits or guidelines then that makes a new Congress all the more essential.
     
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    Better than open borders with drug cartels killing Americans at will with impunity..

    Open war with the cartels or open borders which do you prefer?
     
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    False dichotomy and a fake dilemma. Care to rejoin reality?
     
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    Meanwhile, those who favor the Constitution and the rule of law will continue favoring Congress's power of the purse over Executive overreach.
     
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    So all I need to do to get free stuff is say I'm addicted to it?

    What an awesome society :no:
     
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