Sen. Kamala Harris introduces bill to extend school day by 3 hours

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  1. Bluesguy

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    And a very good point, I worked at the local drug store after work to earn my gas money and my date money and to purchase things I wanted. My parents couldn't afford to hand me that money every weekend. And WORKING is a very good education in how life works which seems to be sorely lacking in the youth of today.
     
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    A pilot in order to make it nationwide the the government camel gets it's nose further under the tent. FINE if your local school wants to do that, all for it. It is NOT the job of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and then the matter of how she would fund it. Let me guess another tax on the evil rich.
     
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    I went double sessions 3rd and 4th grade 7 - 11 and 11:30 - 3:30 and guess what we all learned our math and reading and English and history.
     
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    double sessions? we did full days too, but I can't brag about it... as we did not have a choice
     
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    Yep, should have been more clear. Half the students would to to the morning session and half the students would go to the afternoon session.
     
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    yeah, we never had that choice, we just did the full day, guess your school had too many students to do that

    but the day classes and night classes would be a good options for those schools too
     
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    started detassling corn as soon as I was tall enough, was a grunt for uncle who installed va tile as soon as I could carry 1 box. slave labor but no overhead!
     
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    Before thinking up additional things to spend money on we need to address the 23 Trillion debt. We is her plan for that? Print more money perhaps.
     
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    Job of the president.. we still have one, right??
     
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    It is the job of Congress and the President. My comment was not partisan. As I have said many times in this forum, both parties spend money like drunken sailors. No one wants to cut spending.
     
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    Yes, they will be called Putin's Palaces. Trump Enterpriize Inc.has signed a contract with Putin Palace Industries for Trump to ship miscreant kids to the re-education camp is Siberia. Miscreant Kids are those kids whose parents did not vote for Trump.
     
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    But wait, that's a great opportunity to learn the harshness of nature directly and to develop better balance and a better cerebellum while getting in some extra exercise! Also, the coaches could teach the kids to kip so they can shake it off when they meet an icy hard surface. It's definitely an educational experience.
     
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    Sounds like she thinks the purpose of schools is daycare. Perhaps school through the summer as well so parents have babysitting then as well. Think she just lost the vote of all the school teachers.
     
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    Them corn-fed meat and potatoes guys told me they first developed strength as young boys while humping those heavy storm windows up a ladder to the second story after harvest was in. Then came throwing bales.
     
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    Have you ever compared the quality of home-schooled kids to public school students?

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    Throwing hay bales will toughen you up pretty quick!

    Anyway, the general idea of schools being more accessible after hours is a good one, IMO its a local issue but if the Fed's wanna throw some money at it to forward the idea i'm ok with it, just don't be silly about it and pay full price for supervised child care, it can be done cheaper. The issue I have is its 2.5 billion just for a very limited pilot project and its 90% funding (with the 10% coming in the form of fairly easily matched funds (volunteers or equipment).

    Since I generally prefer smaller gov't overall I'd be happier with more of a 50/50 split at best requiring the state/local to each toss in 25% minimum, but since they aren't likely to do that then whatever, try the idea out.

    Present a clean bill with zero pork and put it up for vote.
     
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    Liberals have been advocating banning sports for some time now.
     
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    That's a really bizarre and totally incorrect broad brush attitude about home schooling. Honestly I think home/self learning can be more effective in many ways, I'd go into it more but honestly it seems like it would be a waste of time considering what you posted, so I'll just leave it with the simple picture.

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    If they truly wanted to do some good, they should offer some after school work programs that actually keeps the kids busy after school and gives them an opportunity to earn some dollars.

    Couple of suggestions in this realm would be have some students help maintain the school, i.e. janitorial or basic maintenance.

    A bakery in the school (remember home economics) which students could learn to bake and run a shop while providing cheap bakery goods to needy families.

    A Tire shop maybe...

    There are 100's of things they could do that would educate them, give their families some spending dollars while providing some form of service.
     
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    Attach the federal money get it out in place and watch the mandates come.
     
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    Why reread when I read it the first time? Now what about the cost AFTER the pilot program?
     
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    There is none under this proposed statute beyond the administrative costs . It provides funding for these one time grants of up to 500,000 per school. That's why there is the section in the law obliging these schools to develop a plan for funding outside the grant's seed money when the grant money dries up..

    By the way if you read this, why did you write this pile of crap?
    "Does this intellectually challenged person not realize that the federal government does not control local schools? That all these hundreds and hundreds of school systems have their own contracts with employees that dictate hours? That there is no mechanism to enforce such a mandate on something which constitutionally and statorially she does not control from her little office on Capital Hill.
    How do people who are totally clueless about thhe government get elected to make the laws?"

    Pilot programs don't provide 'mandates' to do anything that the applicants who are the school districts that do control their schools, did not promise to do, when they applied for the money. I think they are in a better position than you are to know the constraints of their employee contracts and when they write up their proposal

    As I said, learn to read.
     
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    It's a dumb idea and yet many districts, to your point, already do it so parents can stay employed and keep the number 1 economy in the world going.

    If the feds want to throw money at it, what's dumb about that? All that would ensure is that so called before and after school programs, which aren't school at all but basically day care, would be available to all schools not just districts that can find the additional funding on their own. As a result, parents in districts that have less resources, and probably also have less resources, have a better opportunity to go get those resources via work which is the American dream and what you guys on the right talk about all the time. Their children will benefit from these additional resources in the ability to go to college or have other financial benefits which will increase the skills and competition of our labor market thus producing more efficiency aka more money. Duh.
     
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    Maybe an extension of school hours can be offset by a cut in parents’ work hours.

    Liberal logic.
     
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    Accusing a 'liberal' bill that has nothing to do with controlling the work hours of any parent anywhere,but instead facilitates them staying at their job consistently so that both parents and their employers benefit , of doing the opposite for no apparent reason that its a simple sentence to write and spell.

    Conservative logic?
     
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