Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

You're right! We can't tell foreign nations to glorify an American leader. That is something that should be done on a nation's own initiative - and if a nation does, then we should be grateful because it is a real honor, since it wasn't done because of our bullying, blackmailing, etc. It's time we realized our place in the world, and stop thinking we own it.

The only person that I could think of who might deserve a statue in Germany would be our Sec. of State George C. Marshall since he advocated the plan that rebuilt Germany after WWII. But how can Germany honor someone who rebuilt their country when it was his own country that destroyed it? There are just too many dead people buried under Germany's WWII rubbish for any recognition.

Anyway, the same sentiments Germany has towards injustices done them by Britain and the US in WWII, other nations have towards Germany for their own sufferings in that war. Think about it and stop being so smug - because arrogance always proceeds a fall.

 

Not quiet. When Napoleon got defeated, the victorious powers sat down and created a new order, signed contracts. Same happened France/Germany 70/71. Take your own revolution war, solid result.
Or go further back into European history, solid results, one winner one loser.
Did the results create an other mess further down the road, for sure.
Not always winner takes all, some of those war lasted so long, that any end was better, than continuing, like the 30 years war, but still there was a winner.

 

Like you have a choice!!!

 

Perhaps he was put there to get under your skin.

 

Yeah, but why would we do that? Not only say no, say hell no.

 

Sentimentality.

 

It was LBJ's policies that bankrupted the Soviets; their economy collapsed under the weight of trying to prop up North Viet Nam and their imperialist 'Khrushchev Doctrine'; they were toast in 1973, and on western life support right up to the final 'soft landing' managed by Gorbachev. Reagan just took credit for it, puffery and spin, while he and Nancy spent most of their time hanging out with gay fashion designers and helping big banks swallow up most of the American economy and 'financializing' it, i.e. planning and advocating shipping all the high productivity jobs to labor racketeering countries like Mexico and Red China, along with nice big tax breaks and subsidies to help the companies along. Reagan is only a 'God' to assorted amoral criminals and 'globalists'.

 

Utterly ridiculous.

You forgot that under President Carter the U.S. was doing its best to prop up the Soviet Union via grain sales (until the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) technology transfers and loans.

I find it amazing that so called "Americans" give more credit to a ruthless dictator like Gorbachev than the overwhelmingly elected president such as President Reagan.

 

Your Reagan fetish is duly noted; doesn't change the facts one iota they went bankrupt in 1973, not under Reagan's babbling and credit stealing. Other major factors were the Israeli defeats of the Arab allies, which they in turn blamed on the Soviets as well, also an LBJ policy decision to back the Israelis, in 1967, after France left them to die, and the Soviets' several failures in Africa, also long before Reagan began waking up in the White House and wondering where he was every morning. Reagan was. however, fond of the Iranians, and sold them weapons. They made a last gasp effort, mainly to try and intimidate China, in Afghanistan and Viet Nam, with a joke of a naval buildup in 1979-80, which only consisted of parking a lot of junk at our old naval base there.

 

Prove it.

 

Don'

I don't have to; it's already in the history books. You'll just have to build Saint Ronnie a statue out of your own pocket.

 

Post a link or it didn't happen.

 

Berlin should have accepted the statue, wrapped it in an American Flag and
installed it at the effluvium pipe..of the nearest Sewage Treatment Plant

 

You think its impossible to be critical about USA without russian propaganda? I was born after Reunion and find USA bad in most aspects.

 

The soviet 8th guards army would be based inside a lake? Wow.

 

Let me get this right...you install a clown as ambassador who gets zero respect, gets nonstop insulted and belittled and you see that as good?

 

Our Embassy is sovereign American soil, if we want to put up a statue of Reagan, that is our right.

Reagan was a good man, many still credit him with winning the Cold War and enabling Germany's reunification. Germans should be grateful to hm and should have erected this statue themselves years ago.

 

The greatest memorial to President Reagan is the hundred million or more people who have far greater freedom thanks to him.

 

Maybe, but a statue wouldn't hurt. His greatest quote was always " Mr Gorbachev....tear down this wall' and by by the end of the decade they were doing just that. It wasn't entirely Reagan's doing but he played a part and a statue commemorating the speech right where it took place doesn't seem like a lot to ask.

 

Lots of people from liberals/progressives/Democrats in the U.S. to various Europeans hate to admit that Ronald Reagan was right and they were wrong about the Soviet Union.

 

You learned anti-USA hate from your fellow Ossis. They were told that the Russkies were "Brudervolk" and Americans were devils.

 

The credit for reunification goes to Bush Sr. He used the US weight to make it possible.

 

I as a West German would invite such a statue or plague, I would include Bush Sr. But the point is, it has to be done by Germany and not the US, or in a joint venture. But the US wanted to do it with out invitation. Should the government of Berlin have made it a joint venture, yes.

 

I gave your post a like because I think George H.W. Bush (he is not Sr. nor is his son Jr. as their middle names are different) was underrated as a president.

But the fact remains that the fall of the Berlin Wall came only 11 months after Bush became president and his foreign policy was basically still running on autopilot from the 8 years Reagan was in office.

 

Which is correct. But it was Bush Sr who supported Kohl in his drive to unify, against the will of all the other former victorious countries.
France, UK and Soviet Union were against it. It was Bush who supported Kohl and made it possible.
Bush was uniquely qualified for his job and for the time, rather cool and with his stint at the CIA he had some real insight and naturally he had his heart at the right place.
But without him, re-unification would have been a real mess. Tomorrow the wall came down 30 years ago. But re-unification was a year later.
I am a Reagan Democrat, even being German, I liked that guy very much, but when it comes to the German re-unification, Germany has to thank G H W Bush he made it possible.
Even that I think nobody could have stopped Kohl, actually nobody ever stopped Kohl, except Merkel, his apprentice.
Kohl would have pushed the re-unification through, no matter what. When he made up his mind, slowly and aggravatingly ponderously. he was like a tank.
Luckily Bush and Kohl got along and Bush understood that Kohl would not be stopped.

It is already 30 years ago, wholy cow, time flies.