Berlin denies "Reagan" Statue to erected on its soil...US have to park it on their embassy

Not Brudervolk, Socialistic Brother States.
I had a funny experience in 1991. I ran horse back rides in the Navajo reservation. I got at that time lots of East Germans. They spent their East German Marks savings, which had been converted in German Mar 1:1.
When sitting around the camp they told stories how they travelled in the Socialistic Brother States and so on. Their German was so different from mine. The party language was deeply ingrained, they could not help it. For me they came from a different planet and for my other European customers.

 

The moment the Iron Curtain came down, nobody and nothing was running on auto pilot.
The US was completely surprised by the swift events. No warning up front.
I think Bush is the most underestimated President ever.
The way he handled this world crisis and managed it was outstanding. Total surprise, he stayed cool, took leadership and brought it to a successful conclusion, without one drop of blood shed.
Simply outstanding.

 

Reagan will be remembered well in history.

His opponents (the moronic 1980's "no nuke" crowd) are long forgotten.

 

Wrong.
When Reagan deployed Pershings in West Germany, he reached the breaking point of West Germans.
You have no idea what the constant threat of war did to the population.
The fames Autobahn, daily, miles long convoys of military equipment, daily deployment of military, or exchanges from the deployment sections along the border. The fall, spring or summer exercises, for us it was real. For us who served in the German Army, it was not a game, it was real.
You never knew if the random alarms were just training or the real thing. It just needed one minor screw up.
Everybody in West Germany knew that, but lived as it was not there.
It was always there, we could see it every day.
20.000 soldiers just in my home town, elite, tanks, grenadiers, cav. They went out every day, training, stationing, 30 miles to the border and the Fulda Gap.
Reagan pushed the envelope and nearly broke West Germanies back and with it NATO's and I think he did not know.

 

No doubt that Ronald Reagan would prefer having his statue on American embassy property so to not be confused with statues of Hindenburg, and Bismarck and other German nationalist populists,.

 

You do know that the deployment of Pershing II missiles in West Germany in 1983 was the culmination of a NATO plan agreed upon under President Carter in 1979?

 

Ask him what he thinks about chemical gas attacks.

He will proudly tell you.

 

The only reason the Soviets were able to successfully invade Germany in the first place is because the US and others were attacking Germany from the west. And lest we forget, the US was allied with Stalin's commie regime during WWII.

 

Tesla wouldn't have gotten very far without Leibniz and Planck though.

 

How many countries had to gang up on Germany in order to defeat her? It took the combined efforts of the UK, France, the USA, and the Soviet empire to bring her down in WWII. There is an undeniable greatness in German culture. But Germany isn't allowed to feel pride in itself. They just have to feel shame forever. Meanwhile, the USA, France, and the UK are allowed to glory in their own cultures despite all having empires of their own. The British killed millions in India alone. Churchill let them starve intentionally. Churchill, by the way, was an extreme racist, just like Hitler.

 

If by "won" you mean the US military killed lots of people, blew lots of things up, and wasted trillions of dollars, then you are absolutely right.

 

Reagan was a man of peace who helped bring about the end of a cold war.

Unfortunately, his great achievement has been squandered by Russia-hating fools in the USA and the UK.

 

That sounds like the sort of petulant and stupid thing that some of my fellow Americans would do.

 

Apparently, LBJ's policies bankrupted America too.

 

I wonder how Reagan would feel if he knew the guy campaigning for a Reagan statue in Berlin is the same guy who helped destroy Reagan's INF treaty.

Reagan is no doubt turning in his grave.

 

Except he was already liberalizing the USSR and backroom reunification talks were already underway. He 'told' the USSR/East Germany to do what the CIA told him they were doing before it became public so it'd look like he was some great statement. The wall literally coming down becuase the East Germans had a shitty press conference announcing the 1st stage of reunification helped sell the propaganda.

 

I actually think the Soviets still would have beat Nazi Germany without US help-but it would have taken years longer...unless the Nazi's were able to build nukes.

Lest you forget the Soviets were allied with the Nazi's until Barbarossa, and both the nazis and soviets were very popular with American progressives.

 

The only reason Germany lost to Stalin's commie empire is because Germany was being attacked on both sides by multiple powerful adversaries. Otherwise, Germany would have marched right into Moscow and hung Stalin from a lamppost.

 

Germany's politicians are too much to the Left to want a Reagan statue.
That being said, I don't think a Reagan statue is really appropriate. The past American president only played a tangential role in getting the wall torn down. A political figurehead shouldn't get all the credit for something that was the policy of the country.

I have no doubt if it had been an Obama statue that was proposed, Germany's politicians would have welcomed it with glee.

 

Well, Hitler made the decision to initiate attacks on both flanks.

He should have consolidated his gains on one front before attacking another.

And for the record-Nazi's advanced to within visual distance of Moscow.

It ALMOST worked.

 

This is lazy history, imo.

Reagan won the cold war without a shot fired in anger.

He did it primarily via economic, and political means-with a good dose of human decency and humor thrown in.

And yes, the far left in germany (merkle was an east german communist-pics exist) would have preferred Obama.

Nobody cares.

Germany has not had a good idea, militarily, economically, or otherwise for over 100 years.

Marx---WW1---WW2---socialism and arab immigrats.

Its shameful-they think its great.

 

I learned anti US hate from common sense. I visited USA. What i saw was pathetic.

You ignore one thing. The very same thing the liberal left ignores. The resilliance of eastern germans against propaganda. People know when they got told ****. And its the very same reason why eastern germans today also dont accept the liberal left bullshit.

 

First thoughts, who cares?

Second thought you're pretty sensitive.

 

They took over Europe without firing a shot and field the most powerful European army. I think they've had a few good ideas.

 

Funny how we manage to rule over Europe and become an economic behemoth just with bad ideas then. Also funny you consider nuclear power, chemical fertilizer, vaccinations, jet engines, liquid fuel rocket engines, quantum computing, helicopters ect bad ideas.