READ: Whistleblower lawyer's letter to White House

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So you are CONDONING your BLOTUS's ABUSE of POWER.

    Got it!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The WB is an INFORMANT as opposed to being a WITNESS.

    Law enforcement uses anonymous informants on a regular basis and given that they usually only know ABOUT a crime and/or who committed it they do not have to appear in court. It is up to the cops and prosecutors to find the necessary evidence and/or witnesses to the crime. That is what is happening with the Impeachment Inquiry and there are now several EYE WITNESSES to your BLOTUS's crime.

    Given that your BLOTUS is behaving like a MOB BOSS there is every reason to place the WB in the Witness Protection Program if he does have to testify against your BLOTUS in an open court.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    The WB already HAD access to classified information so there was no crime because he was just doing his job.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Are you recommending the whistleblower be murdered? That is what Putin would do and Putin is Trump's mentor.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Impeachment is a PROCESS that has already BEGUN.

    Once the inquiry has completed it will be reviewed to determine what, if any, Articles of Impeachment need to be drafted and presented to the House.

    The House then VOTES on said Articles and IF they pass in the House they are sent to the Senate.

    The Senate is then OBLIGATED to hold a TRIAL based upon the Articles of Impeachment.

    This is basic Civics 101 that most people learned about in school.
     
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    No, your post was not "fact". It was fake. You said:

    He did not conspire with members of Congress. He went to Schiff's office - not Schiff personally - and was told that the correct procedure was to use the statutory whistleblower provisions. Being pointed in the right direction is not conspiracy.

    So, yeah - what you posted was fake.
     
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  7. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Yes, of course there were other channels. His or her complaint went through TWO IGs, both of whom found it credible. Oh, and btw, it's been customary pratice, contrary to the blatant lies being told on FOX news and by a number of Republicans, to ask for advice from the corresponding congressional committee that would be tasked to investigate such a whistleblower complaint. So, yeah, Adam Schiff's office did the right thing.

    And he or she is not a spy. But good luck with that one.
     
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  8. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    To whom are you referring as "he"? Trump, or the WB?
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/sixth_amendment


    The 6th amendment refers specifically to a trial process. Perhaps you don't know this, but the impeachment process in the US House of Representatives is not, I repeat, is NOT a trial process. It is the indictment process. The trial process for which the 6th amendment applies will then happen in the US Senate. I am glad that we could clear up your obvious confusion.

    As the grand jury was gathering up evidence against mob boss John Gotti, he had no 6th amendment rights vis-a-vis the grand jury itself. Those rights apply once one is accused,not before. See how that works?
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Whether or not you are certain of anything is absolutely irrelevant. You are accusing a whistleblower of having gained access to classified information without knowing who he or she is. Surely you realize how ridiculous that unfounded statement is.

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but learning requires that people actually read, comprehend, retain information and discern. That's a pretty tall bill for some people.
     
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    Peabody well knows that. After all, he has been told a zillion times. He is trolling.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    BINGO
     
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    Let's use some discernment here. Calling a person a traitor is not necessarily a threat, but going out of one's way to describe how spies (read that as: traitors) were punished in the past, namely, that they were executed, aka killed, to a room full of adoring supporters, is the worst form of virtue-signaling that someone should probably just go out there and kill the WB. This is the same kind of **** that mob bosses have done over and over and over again. And the fact that this very obvious, not even halfway-cloaked threat came from the POTUS himself, that right there is in and of itself an impeachable offense and is surely going on the mile-long list of his High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    You seem to be a very awake, intelligent individual to me and in no way a troll.

    So, tell me, if a person were on a boat with someone who had 5 burly henchmen behind him, each one with a 100 lb cement block next to him, meaning, 600 lbs, and the guy said to you "nice water on the side of this boat, would be a terrible shame if you were weighted down and fell into the water" - then every single person who has a brain and a pulse would know that it was a threat and it would not matter if the guy in the middle, the one who said that crap, were to throw you into the water, or one of this 5 , the result would be same: that poor, unfortunate individual, would be swimming with the fishies and he, the boss, would be responsible for the weights carrying said individual to the bottom of the lake.

    So, cut the crap. Every single one of the adults in the room knows what's going on here.

    Glad we could clear that up, nöööööö
     
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    I agree with you! It should be dealt with most seriously, for the ******* who is committing criminal acts that are so heinous so that even his supporters are ratting on him because somehow, deep down, in spite of their many failings in even considering supporting this *******, they still want to save the Republic before it gets nuked, yeah, this ******* needs to be impeached in the HOR, found guilty in the Senate, physically removed from office, be charged in federal and civil court for a vast array of crimes, found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt by a jury of his peers, sent to prison and spend the rest of his life, alone, penniless, friendless, without access to the outside world, in a dank, freezing, isolated jail cell without a toilet so that he must **** on himself just like his ICE lackeys did to asylum seekers. But of course, if there is evidence that he committed espionage against the USA ala Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in the early 1950s, then a harder penalty would probably apply.
     
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    The WB didn't leak. Your statement claims evidence that is not present, ergo, your statement is a patent falsehood. The WB went through the correct channels.
     
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    Wondering if this is a case of Rumpelstiltskinitis.

    Uhm, in case you were sleeping the last 5 weeks, impeachment proceedings are long underway in the US House of Representatives.

    Glad I could help. Feel free to get out more often! Read the news!
     
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    Now you're just being silly. You must be out of any argument.
     
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  19. Statistikhengst

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    No. This is a flagrantly false statement of yours, because it claims facts that are not in evidence. The WB sought advice from the staff of the committee that would be responsible for investigating such a complaint. That staff advised him to go to the appropriate IG. This is the way it is supposed to work, fully correct and squeaky-clean.

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    Only till it goes to the Senate, then it becomes a trial where the President gets 6th amendment rights. BTW the Ukraine President said he didn't know the funds were withheld till after the conversation.

    Here's what Trump said..............

    The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.

    If Biden did what he bragged about doing, that would constitute an abuse of power as the Vice President. Being a rival candidate doesn't make any abuses and law breaking by him while VP above the law. Trump asked Zelenskyy to coordinate with the US Attorney General, NOT his campaign.



    If Biden really did this then he would be unfit for being President. If Biden didn't do it then it would go nowhere with the AG, if he did he should be brought to justice.

    The guy admitted to it on video tape, so of course it deserves further investigation to determine if he was BSing or he really did it. The guy wants to be President. We could ask Biden if he broke the law but he'll likely just say it wasn't true and he was bragging. So we have to ask the other side which is what Trump did. Judging by the reaction from the left, I'm thinkin he did it or they wouldn't care because there would be nothing there.

    That's NOT his call and using blackmail with US aid to do it would be Abuse of Office.....you can frame it anyway you'd like it's a crime. That's why Trump asked the Ukrainian President to coordinate with the U.S. AG.
     
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    That was the Lindsey Graham before the famous golf trip with Trump. It went something like this:

    "Trump: So, Lindsey, how are you?

    Lindsey: I'm, uh, ok.

    Trump: listen, I'm so sorry to hear about the numerous sextapes of rentboys rawdog rotorooting your rear-end, but listen, I won't say anything, mkay. Cuz no doubt your nice christian base would probably want to run you bigly out of town for that perversion.

    Lindsey: should I kiss your ass here, or here, Mr. beloved president???

    Trump: all over, Princess Lindsey, all over, and 24/7 at that. But right now, Imma gonna grab me some *****. Now, get the **** out of here, Princess Lindsey."
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    This is correct. But beware what you ask for, you may just get it.
     
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    I am totally shocked to hear this!
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The WB.
     
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    Nope....he'll get what the Senate gives him and given the majority there, that should satisfy even you.......except there will be a Supreme Court Judge presiding. And that, in itself, will be a test for your Constitution. Will it be a GOP appointee like Kavanaugh? Of course, it will. That is what makes the rest of the World think.......the USA has politicised every level of due process in America. Sorry state of affairs to this outsider.
     
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