Hillary Clinton, Establishment Democrats Signal Deepening Panic over Democrat Field

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has been widely believed among Democrats that Bloomberg and Clinton would not run unless Biden, who was long believed to be the unshakeable frontrunner, showed signs of wavering. Both Warren and Sanders have managed to put a dent in his support, keeping potential candidates like Clinton on the fence and prepared to pounce.

    Bloomberg’s, Holder’s, and Clinton’s purported considerations speak volumes about the state of the current Democrat field. Democrat elites are unsatisfied with the choices, fearing Biden’s lack of stamina in a general election matchup against Trump and questioning the electability of Warren and Sanders, who have unabashedly embraced far-left proposals and positions that strategic Democrats, like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), have long attempted to keep at bay.

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...s-signal-deepening-panic-over-democrat-field/

    The rift in the democrat party continues to widen.

    The corporate/establishment wing does not believe the current candidates are likely to win in 2020. Typically the incumbent has a 70% chance of winning a second term. These corporate dems also have money and in Bloombergs case, strong media influence.

    Bloomberg, Eric Holder, and Hillary also see how weak the current "front runner" Biden is. He may have better politics from their perspective but he's aloof and confused.

    Clearly the far left support Bernie, who is popular with younger marxists and the squad-they would likely feel alienated if a Hillary or a Bloomberg became the democrat candidate. Today AOC said that Bloomberg was trying to buy the election.

    The fact that less than 1 year before the general election, dems are still struggling for effective candidates is telling.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nobody else, and there is no longer time for someone to jump into this fray. Hillary has ZERO chance, so that's a wash before it begins. Bloomberg is a straight up gun grabber, no way to hide it, so no way he could ever win. There simply exists nobody in that party that can appease the far leftist whackjobs that make up the base and stay close enough to the center to win in the general. Its one of the many reasons for Hillary's hilarious failure...
     
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    So what?

    A year before the 2016 Election the GOP was "struggling" for an effective candidate.

    Trump didn't emerge as a "viable" candidate until much later.

    ^So, that "talking point" has just been destroyed.

    In general terms, it seems that "Moderate" Democrats don't think that Warren can defeat Trump.

    So, if Biden were to falter, Bloomberg is positioning himself as a potential "Stop Warren" candidate.

    You're Welcome. :salute:
     
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    Hillary's insane blood lust to be President has no conditions. She doesn't give a **** who's running or what chance they have to beat a Republican. She has one aim and that's for herself; no one else.
     
  5. US Conservative

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    Agreed. That makes a potential Clinton candidacy more likely in my view.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true at all, the country rejected liberalism and Obama's failure, which led to the US needing someone like Trump. It was hardly the situation the Democrats have. There were actually plenty of qualified Republicans in 2016. 2020 Democrats are a bunch of clowns. Sanders sold out, that cost him. He should have been the front runner from the get go. Creepy Joe is a third stringer, couldn't beat Hillary or Obama, never been past Iowa, and hides behind Pelosi's skirt for the impeachment. Warren and everyone else that supports reparations can't win a general election. You folks haven't fielded a single viable candidate and your backup plan is Hillary and Bloomberg? Bloomberg doesn't have the name recognition nor time to build a general election network that would have any chance of winning. These are like pipe dreams because you folks already know you're going to lose...
     
  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe there is no one else, but its not too late for some to enter the race and try.
     
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    You should just admit, a good economy "Trump's" them all. You'll get another shot in 2024.
     
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    She might be wearing an orange jumpsuit by then.
     
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    True, but this should've been about Biden. All indications were that Trump would be re-elected, so this cycle should have been to find someone like Biden with a small field. That would have allowed a loss, got a few potential folks some name recognition and experience in the big show and prepped for 2024. Instead Democrats went full on stupid and decided to make a complete spectacle of the whole thing...
     
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    The 3 Democrat front runners have a combined age of 230.

    maybe, I did not really check.

    Old, tired ideas. Old, tired politicians.
     
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    There's always 2024 Think, by then OAC will have had 4 years back to bartending to mull over a 2024 run.
     
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    Cool story bro
     
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    They’re all tarred and feathered with “Medicare for all”.

    They can’t win.
     
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    Is there anything worse than an old socialist who refuses to admit those ideas are for losers?
     
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    It's all a ruse to "draft" the witch.
     
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    Yeah, a partisan, pontificating Republican
     
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    “Show me a man who isn’t a liberal at 20 and I’ll show you a man without a heart. Show me a man who isn’t a conservative at 40 and I’ll show you a man without a brain”.

    Winston Churchill


    How’s that for pontificating?
     
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    Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

    Clemenza
     
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    Breitbart "talking points" duly noted.

    If, as you claim, there were "plenty of qualified Republicans in 2016"...

    ...THEN, why was an IMBECILE (like Trump) able to beat them?
     
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    Because sadly those qualified folks were too establishment, and to fix the massive disaster that was Obama, we needed something else, Trump...
     
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    Full on stupid indeed.

    Even back in 2016, it was pointed out that they weren't fostering talented younger candidates.

    They countered with candidates like Harris, Beto, and Cory Booker-and of course they crumbled like paper tigers at the first sign of opposition from their own party.
     
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    Funny enough she's campaigning with Sanders in Iowa.

    The media reported "massive" crowds, it was just a few hundred people but its the most Sanders has gotten.

    Sanders, on the trail this weekend looks quite ill. He looks like he's circling the drain.
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    I keep wondering about that.
     
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