No testimony from whistle blower

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Democrats controlling the House does not prevent the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, or any of the local jurisdictions from investigating Biden.
     
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    I guess he's immune from a House impeachment inquiry or ethics investigation. Biden is not a representative of the House, a President, a federal judge, or a member of the cabinet. The House does not have the power to impeach former senators or former VP's nor the power to impede a justice department investigation, or FBI, or that of any number of State AG's who do have that power. .
     
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    hmm did you forget the part where he said get with Barr, just like your suggesting? Did you forget that he didn't mention holding any aid, nor meeting, nor trade rights when asking for a favor. Seems as usual you're having to attach words to Trump's call or relying on 3rd party feelings to get to your conclusion. Money was released, meeting was had, and UK President didn't even know money was held up. Reality vs feelings is usually the way to go in life.
     
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    The majority controls the House. So when the majority does something, the House does something.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ...I have very much enjoyed our date and if I will not see you again soon, it'll kill me; you are the best...

    Creative reading supports the Liberals' suspicions! :roflol:
     
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    So..."Dutch's" argument, is why would the President risk lying under oath? Hahahahahaha. Guess we'll have to wait for his testimony, under oath, in his Senate trial. Surely, he'll testify to defend himself.
     
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    I'm glad you agree.
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    There is no such thing as full due process in an impeachment proceeding.
     
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    Why don't argue one of the points instead of writing a incoherent musing on pubs, kings and good taste. Start with tell us which law was broken and what are the facts you have that were broken?
     
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    I did not forget the part where he told Ukraine to talk with Barr. I notice however that Barr did not make that request himself and he explicitly distanced himself from any such discussions.

    He immediately responded to a request for military aid by requesting the favor. That's what happened.
     
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    Yes, the House Democrats did something. That's the point. The House Republicans. all off them and two bold Democrats, voted against it. That's just the truth. It's a Democrat inquiry and, try as you may, there's no way around that..
     
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    Certainly not during a partisan show trial. Full due process was rejected by the DP.
    The whole world is watching.
     
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    No my friend, I've never said the President would be caught lying. It is not a difficult task for a skilled interrogator (which Mueller is arguably not) to set an innocent person to contradict himself during interrogation. Which under oath is called "perjury".

    You should know this. :oldman:
     
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    Because it point blank refutes your claim that Trump talked about funding then immediately went to asking for a favor, the opposite as usual. Did Trump suggest the money was held up??? Please quote that for us.
     
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    I fully embrace the fact that Democrats are the ones holding Trump accountable. If Republicans had made even a token gesture to that end, then they might still have held onto the majority after the 2018 elections.
     
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    The House acted in accordance to the rules and everyone who voted at all, takes responsibility for their vote.
     
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    I never claimed that Trump talked about funding then immediately went to asking for a favor. I said that Ukraine requested military aid and then Trump immediately started to talk about requesting a favor.

    Did Trump hold up the money at the time of that phone call?
     
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    You let me know when Trump faces a proceeding that can result in him losing his life, his liberty, his possessions or even his job and I will let you know when Trump is entitled to more Due Process Rights.

    As it stands, there are people with very relevant information who could, in theory, exonerate Trump and Trump has explicitly ordered those people to keep their mouth shut.
     
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    My friend,

    All of these jurisdictions now busy lawyering up in the face of Durham criminal investigation. They've no time trying to save Bidens, but Durham is investigating :)
     
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    A partisan majority of one party has voted to hold a sham un-American partisan show trial.
    Shame on everyone involved.
     
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    Investigate away then. Still doesn't prevent them from investigating Biden.
     
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    lol the FBI investigate a democrat ... funniest comment ever right there
     
  23. MrTLegal

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    Enjoy the impeachment. The public testimonies start Wednesday.
     
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    Can you quote "Full due process" as a legal term please.
     
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    How many questions did you expect Donald to answer under oath consecutively, based on this advice? I know that they normally ask some boilerplate questions like name and profession for the record... he should handle those well.
     
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